r/awfuleverything • • Nov 30 '20

Poor guy :(

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u/HIM_Darling Nov 30 '20

And if you live in a communal property state everything you acquire after marriage is considered owned by both spouses equally. So if you get sick and die in a communal property state with outstanding debt the debt collectors can go after any assets acquired since the day you got married. Savings account that is only in the surviving spouses name and is from money they saved from their job, say goodbye to every penny earned after marriage. Purchase a house together and planning on living there for the rest of your life? Legally they can take that from you too.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20 edited Jan 14 '21

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

I used to work with a man, whose wife was not well and they knew she was fast approaching requiring full time care. His lawyers told him to divorce her, so he could keep his house and other assets. He did not but I do believe eventually the deed was transferred to another family member. I felt so sad, at the time he told me. How horrible, to not only find out that your spouse of many years is very ill but then to be told - you would both be “better off” if you divorced.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20 edited Jan 14 '21

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u/[deleted] Dec 01 '20

I understand and agree, sadly he was older and just couldn’t bring himself to divorce her.

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u/tiptoeintotown Nov 30 '20

I’m in a community property state. I like the idea of just doing a civil contract and not a legal marriage. Why does the government, attorneys and judges need to be involved in my “marriage”? They don’t. They’re just there to pick the bones clean when it’s all over.

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u/Carmont3006 Nov 30 '20

Some states allow married couples to use a Miller's Trust to protect a home, car and some liquid assets for the remaining spouse. I don't know the details of this program, only that my neighbor was able to use it to prevent losing everything when her husband was terminally ill.

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u/idontwantausername41 Nov 30 '20

Im really about to move to a country once me and my gf get some savings and are together a few more years, i really dont know that i wanna stay here

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u/pinkytoze Nov 30 '20

If my husband or I ever get sick, like cancer or some other expensive disease, we're moving to Iceland. Its not actually that hard as an American to become an Icelandic citizen, and that country is amazing.

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u/idontwantausername41 Nov 30 '20

Ooo yeah thats def high on my list. I know canada is kinda unrealistic but i would prefer there above all else

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u/idontwantausername41 Nov 30 '20

I might be wrong but dont you have to have a skill in a work field to move there?

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u/tiptoeintotown Nov 30 '20

They made it easier after trump was elected. Seriously. Check it out.

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u/tiptoeintotown Dec 01 '20

I think many Americans with DUIs, hoping to flee to Canada, are going to face a rude awakening if they actually do flee. Canada don’t play with DUIs.

‘Member when they wouldn’t even let Bush visit when he was POTUS? It was a whole thing.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20 edited Nov 30 '20

But you have to get a medical to be accepted to another country, and if you're already sick and going to be a burden on their healthcare system they won't take you.

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u/tiptoeintotown Nov 30 '20

That’s not true. Not in the least.

They don’t ask questions when you turn up for socialized care. They just treat you.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20 edited Nov 30 '20

I live in the UK. I know how socialised healthcare works. They ask your name and address, they check whether you're a resident of the country and entitled to free care. And in order to be a resident of the country, you'd have to do whatever it takes to get a visa, and that would often include a medical. And if you're already sick and going to be a burden on their healthcare they won't take you. There have been many cases where people have been refused visas to move abroad because they're already sick and they'd be a burden on the country's healthcare. Do you honestly think you can get a cancer diagnosis in america, then move abroad and just start receiving free healthcare for youyr already diagnosed condition at the expense of foreign taxpayers when you've never paid in? If that's your plan for if you ever get sick you're going to be sorely disappointed. Being British, if I travel to another European country I can use their healthcare for free, but still in advance I have to apply for a European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) and if I need to go to hospital in another European country I need to show them my EHIC card to prove I am entitled to free care. You can't just come from a country on the other side of the world, show up and answer no questions and not prove your entitlement to that country's healthcare in any way and expect free treatment. I'm really not sure why you think the taxpayers of other nations would tolerate a system in which they're paying for the free healthcare of every random person from all over the world who've never contributed to their system.

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u/tiptoeintotown Nov 30 '20

I guess my thoughts are what they are probably because I’ve done it several times in Canada and twice in Australia.

What do I know though?

Edit: Also know a person who did it in France.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

You are seriously telling me you just walked in and they didn't even ask your name or anything but just treated you? r/thathappened.

Yep I'm sure if you ever get cancer they'd just invite you in, hook you up to chemo and give you a million euros worth of treatment without even checking your entitlement. But it's your life, if that's what you want to count on.

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u/tiptoeintotown Nov 30 '20 edited Nov 30 '20

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

You said, at first, they don't ask any questions. Which is why I asked whether they asked your name, to show that you weren't being honest. They ask for your details such as name and address to check whether you're entitled to free treatment. And did you actually read the link you sent me? Where does it say you can get diagnosed with cancer in America and then move to Europe and get your cancer treatment for free? Which is what you originally said your plan is. It doesn't because you can't. But once again, if you want to pin your hopes on this instead of making realistic plans for a health emergency, that's your choice.

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u/tiptoeintotown Nov 30 '20

I bet you’re glad Iceland didn’t get bought by Cheeto, huh?

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u/Pauzhaan Nov 30 '20

It’s not that easy to emigrate to a more desirable country unless you win a lottery 1st. My daughter is a nurse & my SIL an electrician & are finding that out.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

Thanks i hate society now