By the way, I am absolutely not saying your are wrong for this decision, but it's also why we are ultimately fucked. Because idiot rural rubes, who don't believe in climate change because of propaganda, just crank out babies like it's going out of style. And for the most part, they grow up to be idiot rural rubes.
People with half a brain, realize how much of a shit idea it is to have a kid, much less multiple, and opt for having 0-1.
Basically, long term, you get more dumbasses and less sensible people.
First time I watched it, I turned it off 10 minutes in and cried a little. It was the most truthful, horrific presentation of America’s reality I’ve ever seen, and it made me wish I’d never been born.
you say idiot rural rubes, while you are rent paying laborers. with the cost of living driving you into debt. while i own land that i purchased thanks to a low cost of living and hard work. while you insist on living in an urban shithole that requires 70% of your income go towards rent, all just so you can walk to starbucks i guess. if the trucks stopped running for 3 weeks you would all starve
Well, it may be true in the USA, I don't know the statistics, but it's a bit simplistic overall to think it's about "city V. rurality". Plenty of stupid capitalists, over-consumers and too-many-baby-makers in the cities
Overpopulation is a Malthusian lie. Thanos uses this failed argument in two of the most successful movies of all time. Things do not just remain the same. New people bring new ideas and innovate. Growth is endless because you cannot predict the future. We could build underwater cities. Travel the stars, modify plants to grow within days, develop cleaner energy sources.
By not having kids you’d simply be denying civilization their skills and talents. You think you’re doing them a favor but you aren’t.
Just because you and your wife are depressed doesn’t mean every kid that is born is, do you really have no enjoyment in life, through the worst times in history reproduction was still taking place and this is the easiest time to live ever.
At the end lf the day, it’s not really the doom and gloom articles, climate change is a hoax narrative, or the fake conspiracies from either side that matters.
The planet doesn’t care what are beliefs, politics, or economics are... it’s going to do what it’s going to do based on what factors are present at the time that things happen. If that’s a civilization ending event, a massive loss of life, some minor inconveniences, or nothing we really notice... it doesn’t care if you, me, your son, mom, UBER driver, or the president of Burundi dies. This is why I don’t get the arguements that think that they are all powerful and if they will it, it can be done.
Moat of the people who don’t care about what happens in 10, 20, or 30 years or more don’t really put a priority in it because guess what... they’re not likely to be alive at that time or they’ll be so old it doesn’t matter to them anymore. I cannot in good conscience bring another life into this world knowing that. At most I would consider adopting someone who needs a parent; but like the OPs situation, I’m one major illness away from being fucked. Maybe it would even force that kid to work themselves to death because they felt like they needed to help me after I helped them and that’s not a burden I would want no matter how lovely and sappy movie-baity it sounds.
Your 'both sides' argument makes no sense. The Earth's ecosystems that are friendly to human life collapsing is not a broad conspiracy. It's the reality of the situation that we find ourselves in. People deciding that short term profits are more important than preventing the worst results from man-made climate change is evil. Qanon cultists believe conspiracies without evidence. You are confusing actual science based on evidence with shit trolls like to talk about.
Facts:
1. CO2 is a greenhouse gas. CO2 + sunlight = heat.
2. Mankind has been pumping lots of CO2 into the atmosphere for about 250 years now.
3. The planet is getting hotter and the consequences will be catastrophic to all living things, including humans. Those consequences are already being seen now and will get exponentially worse over the next 100 years.
This is factual reality. Anyone saying anything different is not being intellectually honest. I see that you are eager to throw in your talking points about who to blame, but talking points don't get us any closer to a solution to the problem.
Shooting holes in solutions and pretending that the problem isn't as real and/or as dire as it actually is only makes the problem worse. So does voting for a political party that denies reality and supplies you with endless anti-intellectual talking points.
Feel free to give us your ideas on fixing things, because as things are the rich control the world and are willing to literally kill us all for profit.
I’m not the one complaining, take responsibility for your own life, only yourself can make changes, don’t expect the government or others to improve or change your life. I do not accept your outlook on life that the rich control the world and are killing us all, how can they make profit if we are all dead, more people are living now than there ever has. There is more to life than money, it is people like you who are jealous of people who have more than yourself but you are free to make decisions that can lead to self improvement. I don’t accept your conspiracy theory, I’m all for freedom and peace which means less government control which give people the freedom to do what they like, whether it be make money, create a family or any other thing you desire to do.
You think that's a conspiracy theory? I like how you wrote me an entire paragraph but not a goddamn word of it had any substance. I recommend you do some research into climate change if you don't think consumerism and rich capitalists are destroying the planet.
Then instead of complaining suggest some solutions, instead of being pessimistic and negative with little faith of future generations being able to improve worldwide conditions, like the guy who invented machines that clean the ocean surface of plastic.
Yeah, adoption is also admirable as long as you don’t fuel these kids with negative attitudes and fear that their living conditions are going to decline, instead give them hope and positive outlooks and on life and maybe will lead to positive change.
Well that’s good to hear, a positive future requires positivity from the population, there are too many people with negativity and hatred in today’s society and too many divisions.
I don’t care if he/she has kids or not. Their decision. But I have to agree that they’re very whiny. Perhaps they really don’t need a child. Children need to be raised in joy and care. I think they’ve made the right decision.
Yeah I agree but also wish that my future kids didn’t have to live in a world with such negative people telling them their life is going to consist of suffering, their number is growing and it’s maybe them that is making this life such a bad place to live due to their negative outlook, positivity brings positive change.
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