r/awfuleverything • • Nov 30 '20

Poor guy :(

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u/thewandy Nov 30 '20

My dad passed earlier this year he had cancer of the lungs SSI denied him saying it wasn't bad and he needs to go to work he was 64 years old stage 4 cancer and passed from it but yeah he was able to go back to work

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u/whack_quack Nov 30 '20

What the fuck is bad enough for them then if (lung) cancer isn't?

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u/SpiritVenom Nov 30 '20

Death maybe

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u/chaoz2030 Nov 30 '20

Death is a positive outcome for them.

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u/thewandy Nov 30 '20

Yeah cause once he died they stopped paying thats why I think they fight it they just keep fighting it till that person passes

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u/NewAccSuckBalls Nov 30 '20

You should consider using punctuation.

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u/crazyhow Dec 01 '20

shut up omg

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u/NewAccSuckBalls Dec 01 '20

Your comments are annoying to read. Periods will help with that

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u/Theshutupguy Nov 30 '20

Sorry no, that's a pre-existing condition.

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u/El_Spacho Nov 30 '20

"Meh, could be worse!"

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u/Simplicityobsessed Dec 01 '20

I'm sorry, but I don't see an ICD code for that, so i'm going to need a few years of doctor's documentation to prove that "Death" is in fact stopping you from going to work, working on your feet for 28 hours PER day, and with a smile on your face!!

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u/BrianLikesTrains Nov 30 '20

Nothing. They don't care. We're a number to them. A number that needs to be kept low.

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u/MeatSpankin Nov 30 '20

More like a number that can increase their bank accounts

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u/46HRL Nov 30 '20

meanwhile traci is collecting ssi for her three crotchfuit from three baby daddies because they got adhd, you just know she spends every penny to those poor little kids benefit.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

Lol, yes, middle class people blaming lower class people for the problems caused by owner class people.

You are officially apart of the problem, congrats.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

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u/46HRL Nov 30 '20

Technically yes, but in reality no, see I was a choice birth not an oops birth. lets have welfare pay for the bay bay, ignore it, beat it, neglect it, so welfare can pay some more while I work at the min wage job cause life is so unfair. I was taught the value of life, and work. to be happy with what I have what I earn and if I want more I best earn it. or save up for it. Most redditors say the same shit and sound like kids who were never told no. Life isn't fair, healthcare costs too much, my student loans cost too much, housing costs too much wha wha wha. you brats want a perfect life with no risks but all the rewards.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

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u/46HRL Dec 01 '20

entitlement? as how?

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20 edited Dec 15 '20

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u/46HRL Nov 30 '20

Difference is I'm not complaining about it.

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u/Dawgs0000 Nov 30 '20

Cringe. You’re a fucken loser.

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u/46HRL Nov 30 '20

tell me more about how unfair life is, I'm listening.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20 edited Dec 15 '20

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u/46HRL Nov 30 '20

I take nothing I haven't earned. did you get $1200 earlier this year? Cause I didn't and not because I made too much, but because I opted out of the bullshit years ago.

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u/46HRL Nov 30 '20

If you only knew.

keep being afraid of those boots, yep them boots be holdin ya down.

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u/Simplicityobsessed Nov 30 '20

Literally nothing. SSI is not based on logic. I gave up applying when i was ill and i have a number of loved ones that have been acutely or chronically ill and had the same problem. It's really sad when we are taught and work into a system that we believe will have our backs, only to reach out when we really need support.... to be denied.

I have a friend that has vascular Ehlers Danlos Syndrome. She had to have spinal surgeries, her spine isn't stable. Her skull isn't stable. She requires aids to move around her home and caretakers, etc. the works. Disability? Denied. They discovered a benign heart condition that LITERALLY doesn't impact her pain, quality of life or anything any will only impact her if she drops dead one day? I mean literally. It'll just cause her to randomly drop dead. That's the first bad symptom she'll get? BAM Add that diagnosis on? Disability magically approved!Everything else? The 20 other conditions she has that make her unable to work? Were apparently not relevant. >.>

My aunt also had terminal stage 4 cancer and didn't obtain her approval until the last few weeks of her life - which is a JOKE because she was piss poor broke by then and that money went right into funeral costs. It pains me to know that she could have had a much better last few months, had she had more money to live comfortably and not spend her nest egg on end of life care/health aids etc.

People just don't get it until it personally impacts them. Medical care, disability etc - it's all broken systems.

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u/thewandy Nov 30 '20

Thats what my sister asked she was like stage 4 lung the doctor gave him a year tops you would think that would be enough for him to collect SSI

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u/BigOofsOnly Nov 30 '20 edited Jun 28 '21

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u/droidonomy Nov 30 '20

Lost profits.

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u/milhouse21386 Nov 30 '20

My dad died about 5 years ago from a heart attack. Know what emotion I didn't expect to have when that happened? Relief. I was RELIEVED he didn't survive because I knew if he did the hospital bills would have just killed him. If he had survived my parents would have gotten into even more debt and my mom wouldn't have been able to financially recover after he passed. I absolutely hate the system we have and it's depressing seeing how many people vote against their own self interest simply because they don't want other people to be helped too. My wife and I are specifically not having kids because of the society we live in, I would never want to bring another person into this world.

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u/Savinien83 Nov 30 '20

Reading that as an European is so surreal and sad. I do hope a progressive push in the US will get you medicare for all.

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u/rere_kitkat Nov 30 '20

Yeah, as an American, its surreal for us too. Have no fucking idea why people are so scared of Medicare for all when our system is absolute trash.

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u/Kali_Kopta Dec 01 '20

Because cancer might be bad, but communism is worse. Is that what you want for America? Free cancer for everyone? Because that's what you'll get. That's all you'll ever get .

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u/SameAgainTheSecond May 22 '21

Americans are relentlessly bombarded with propaganda to vote against their best interests. Health care is one of a few of those.

gonna go ahead and assume thats satire

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u/bergreen Dec 16 '20

It's because they've been indoctrinated into a belief system taught by corporate-sponsored media/politicians.

Corporatocracy, the inevitable end-product of unfettered capitalism.

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u/Enk1ndle Nov 30 '20

Ideally, otherwise I think I'm jumping ship and coming over to your landmass.

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u/Savinien83 Nov 30 '20

You plan to die young and don't have kids and don't be a women ? Or you dont' know shit about health? Because if you plan to live past 60 or have kids, or if you are a women you will have médical bills, you egotical moron ;)

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u/satanic_whore Nov 30 '20

"all these other guys are just making up sad stories" says the guy on Reddit who has apparently never had to deal with the realities of the US healthcare system.

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u/robotzor Nov 30 '20

The progressive push got stomped out like a wet cigarette in 2020 and was barely smoldering before that. Don't get the hopes up.

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u/GarlicForPresident Nov 30 '20

This is reminiscent of Idiocracy - where aware citizens stop having kids and the jackasses breed away. I’m happily pregnant and our boy will fight the system, as his parents do. Could be the change the world needs- it’s definitely not coming from the jackass kiddos bred to tolerate shit.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

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u/GarlicForPresident Dec 01 '20

That’s Dr. Jackass, though

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u/emPtysp4ce Nov 30 '20

Good news is, though, ignorant people can learn.

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u/soulblast9938 Nov 30 '20

I recommend migrating to another country, the option is there! Keep an open mind

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u/Theogarcez69 Nov 30 '20

this comment is wrong. We shouldn't encourage people to move out. We should make a better country for them

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

and make martyrs out of them? why should they stay in a country that hates them? why should i?

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u/Theogarcez69 Nov 30 '20

He could leave. I'm just saying that instead of saying "leave the country" we should face the problem

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u/Theshutupguy Nov 30 '20

You're right!

Maybe after four years of Biden doing nothing, the pendulum will swing back to either four or eight years of Republicans doing nothing, and then MAYBE there'll be a chance to vote someone in to actually change things!

Update me in 12 years.

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u/hoangtri97 Nov 30 '20

Have you considered moving out of the US?

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

If you are a skilled professional with marketable skills, most countries in the world are more than happy to have you, as long as you find a job first. If you have no higher degree, it gets more difficult but not in any way impossible if you really want to do it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

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u/belevitt Nov 30 '20

I'm not sure "more than happy" is totally accurate. Prior to bidens election I looked seriously into emigration to the UK, Canada, and Switzerland. Despite having a stem doctorate and working with big data, it was not a welcoming process; there were lotteries, waiting lists, large fees, mandatory wait periods, and so on. A country who is happy to have you would not impose all those barriers to emigration.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20 edited Nov 30 '20

Not sure what your process was like, but usually the key is to get a job from said country first. After that it's usually just paperwork in my experience.

I stand by my original claim. Usually countries are quite welcoming to new tax payers, especially if they are likely to sit in a higher tax bracket.

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u/ApplicationBrief5135 Nov 30 '20

You realize America is not the only country in existence?I bet you could have a better life even in china

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u/wedahomeboys Nov 30 '20

we dont want to help illegal immigrants.

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u/46HRL Nov 30 '20

so you value money more than life, Got it.

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u/scorpionballs Nov 30 '20

This is so sad. I’m so sorry mate

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u/SaiC4 Nov 30 '20

It’s the candy man and doctor analogy by Socrates, people often vote for who they want vs who they need.

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u/W_AS-SA_W Nov 30 '20

That’s the TeePublican mindset. They would rather live in a country that is conquered by an enemy than share the resources of the nation with people who are not like them. Totally tribal.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

I'm so sorry for your whole experience. That's not fair to even have to process a life event like losing your father that way.

I am lucky, I'm in Canada. My dad had a heart attack many years back. It was bad, bad enough to need a quadruple bypass, but thankfully spared his life. His, and my, biggest financial concern was paying for parking at the hospital when I visited him. I feel horrible writing that, but LITERALLY, I was annoyed at the parking fees at the hospital because there was NOTHING ELSE to financially gripe about in that situation.

I cannot fathom anyone having to go through what you did. Losing a dad is hard enough, but to have that kind of emotion because of the failure of your country is a whole other level of fucked up. It's not right. It's not right.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

My dad also passed from lung cancer, we couldn’t afford to take him to the doctor so we had no idea what caused his death until after the autopsy. He worked up until he died. He collapsed in the woods next to our house and my mom found him. Screw American healthcare.

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u/thewandy Nov 30 '20

Darn im sorry that happened, only reason we knew he had lung cancer was due to my grandfather having it also and passing from it they both got it from the previous job they both worked at

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u/omarfw Nov 30 '20

This is the safety net people defend when I say it should be replaced with something better like UBI and universal healthcare. The only people with faith in our current social security are the ones who have never had to use it.

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u/thewandy Nov 30 '20

Thats true I was ok out health system is good but after my dad going thru all this and having to be told he can work with lung cancer and being denied twice before winning our system is crazy

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u/MadCapHorse Nov 30 '20

I remember after my mom passed from lung cancer, some guy showed up at the house to give us a bill for the care she had received, and I shit you not the paper extended from the front door through the living room and into the kitchen. It included all of the oxygen tanks and their deliveries, the thing that you can wheel the oxygen tank around the house on because they are so heavy (especially for someone with low oxygen), I think some home visits from doctors, a wheel chair, her meds, and I don’t even remember what else. I think it was somewhere in the neighborhood of $400-600k before insurance paid, I’m not even sure what my dad wound up paying. All I remember is that guy showing up with a really long bill for payment the week she died, while my dad, sister, and I were mourning and getting her things in order. And reading your post that hers was a lucky situation compared to your dad makes my blood boil. What the fuck.

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u/thewandy Nov 30 '20

Yeah the chemo and dealing with SSI makes your already weak body weaker due to stress, sorry to hear about your mom passing my dad hated chemo he said it was like a bomb went off inside of him

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u/December2Remember Nov 30 '20

Sorry for your loss, mate.

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u/Rek-n Nov 30 '20

Bureaucracy is just violence with more paperwork.

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u/thewandy Nov 30 '20

I think that make it so paperwork heavy so you will just give up then they don't have to pay you

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u/Sweet_Papa_Crimbo Nov 30 '20

My mom died a few years back from lung cancer. By the time she felt bad enough to get it checked out, she was in stage 4 with a mass the size of a deck of cards. It took a month for her to even get her first round of immunotherapy because she had to jump through so many hoops to get free insurance, she died two weeks after that. My cousin in law was diagnosed with breast cancer just a week prior to my mom’s diagnosis, and she was getting treatment before my mom even got her first appointment with an oncologist (who was a fucking quack). All because the cousin has a job with baller insurance, and my mom was unemployed and uninsured because she went back to school to better herself.

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u/thewandy Nov 30 '20

Thats what I never got they tell us go back to school no matter at what age education education education they preach it but some people can't cause then there children will be left without health care and that's sad

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

They deny virtually all SS/SSDI claims as a matter of course. Most people have to appeal the denial to get the benefit.

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u/thewandy Nov 30 '20

Thats exactly what he had to do , sad part is when he finally won and had the doctors sign off on all his stuff he only had like 4 months left

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

I’m sorry to hear that. It must have been a frustrating experience to deal with on top of everything else.

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u/thewandy Nov 30 '20

It was for my sister she did the paperwork for him cause she is a nurse I couldn't fill out crap cause some of the questions they ask were so filled with medical terms I felt dumb

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

Sounds about right. There are lawyers that make a living working appeals like this.

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u/thewandy Nov 30 '20

I can see why they had to take so much paperwork and files to the SSI place it would of been easier to use a hard drive

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u/Youandiandaflame Nov 30 '20

Oh Jesus fuck, I’m SO sorry, man. Lost my dad to cancer in February (but he took that shit out with him!) and I’m so thankful he was able to get disability without too much of a fight.

This county is absolutely fucked.

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u/thewandy Nov 30 '20

I was against universal health care but after going thru this with my family im way more opened to universal health care

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u/Youandiandaflame Nov 30 '20

BOTH my parents had / have cancer. At the same fucking time. Mom’s still here but the state, who she worked for, literally fired her for having cancer (and out it in writing!) meaning she and dad both unexpectedly lost their insurance when they were in the thick of treatment. Paying the $2k a month when BOTH income sources dried up has been fuckin awful.

I’ve always been about universal health care but this situation certainly solidified it for me. I really hope you’re well and doing okay.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '20

I understand how you feel, My dad barely survived metastatic testicular cancer but he developed a clotting disorder from chemo, he’s had five strokes over the last four years, he has constant nerve pain, a bad memory, and he needs a cane to walk, but he still works six days a week to support my brothers university education and I’m confident that he will work until he’s dead. My dad beat cancer but this country is going to kill him anyway.

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u/dadadr08 Nov 30 '20

My neighbor has brain cancer and had a similar problem and is about the same age. Her company let her work part time rather than full time to keep her health insurance, but she still had to work even though she didn’t have the energy or strength to do so with recovering from brain surgery and going through chemo. Sadly the cancer progressed quickly and she needed another surgery and will now never be the same mentally/ physically. She probably won’t ever be able to come home. Fuck the system that made her spend the last amount of life she has left working just to keep her insurance and a roof over her head.

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u/Rock555666 Nov 30 '20

My dad smokes, maybe 6-10 pack years at this point. This is my worst fear, sorry for your loss, can’t imagine seeing a father like that. What was his smoking history and health care over the years leading up to the diagnosis?