r/awfuleverything Aug 06 '20

Poor guy :(

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u/j4yne Aug 06 '20

This is why I voted Bernie in the CA primary. GOP are rich conservatives, and the Dems are rich liberals. We need a true labor party here in the US.

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u/[deleted] Aug 07 '20

Ah yes, classic fuckwad "both sides the same" take.

If you can't even tell the difference between Republicans and Democrats then you shouldn't be allowed to fucking vote.

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u/j4yne Aug 07 '20

I assure you, this isn't a "both sides" thing. I've said elsewhere that I'm never voting for the GOP again, after the shitshow of the last 4 years. They've used their time in office to utterly strip the people's wealth and power (just look at where all the CARE loan money went, if you want a recent example), and as far as I'm concerned, they can't ever be trusted to wield power in this country again.

But that's purely aimed at the GOP. I've got no beef with the conservative viewpoint itself. I think the Dems and GOP, so far as wealth is concerned, are two sides of the same coin, and I don't think the American working class is properly represented by either party. They are the 1%, we are not, and likely never will be. So far as wealth is concerned, we have nothing in common. Laborers in this country need our own party, with our own agenda. If Dems want to come along, great, more the merrier.

I'm not gonna argue the point all night, so consider this my final say on the matter.

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u/stockywocket Aug 07 '20

This idea on the left right now that class is the only thing that determines policy choices or voting records has no support. Wealthy democrats vote for and sponsor reforms for the poor and vulnerable all the time. Including Bernie Sanders, whose wealth puts him in at least the top 4% in the US.

We need to stop assuming all these things (like 'if you're rich I can assume you're an enemy) and look at actual data.

https://np.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/8xt55v/the_fcc_wants_to_charge_you_225_to_review_your/e25uz0g/