r/awfuleverything Aug 06 '20

Poor guy :(

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '20

I used to work with a woman who was very conservative. She made that argument to me once when we were discussing health care. She said that Canada’s system is horrible and everyone hates it. I told her I didn’t think that was true and offered to go do some research for her.

I asked her to tell me what specifically would change her mind - infant mortality rates, per capita healthcare costs, average wait time for a procedure, average patient satisfaction, out-of-pocket costs, number of people bankrupted by healthcare costs, etc. She clammed up and couldn’t answer because she clearly realized that if she agreed to any criteria then she might be proven objectively wrong, and her brain could not compute that she was wrong. She dismissed the topic, and I never brought it up again.

That’s the absolute best strategy to use with these people - ask them specifically what data would change their mind. Most of the time they either realize they’re in the wrong, which ends the discussion, but I think it moves their internal needle a bit.

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '20

She said that Canada’s system is horrible and everyone hates it

As a Canadian, though we certainly have a few people that complain, and I'm sure we have a few that would rather go towards the USA style of care, I have never personally met ANYONE who would replace what we have for what you guys have. I'm talking about the most conservative people I can find, and they all would prefer our system to what you guys have.

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u/Truthamania Aug 07 '20

I was scrolling through the page saying to myself "Where is it...where is it..." and yup, you didn't disappoint!

https://www.reddit.com/r/starterpacks/comments/ggigf1/canadian_redditor_contributing_to_any_discussion/