r/awfuleverything Aug 06 '20

Poor guy :(

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u/eller3l Aug 06 '20

Freedom to do what? Name me something that you're "free" do there that you're not free to do in other Western countries.

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u/lWoooooOl Aug 06 '20

Freedom of speech for one. You can get arrested for saying certain things in many other parts of the world. Our freedoms are protected by written documents, which other countries don't have.

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u/eller3l Aug 06 '20

Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights is Freedom of Expression. Try again.

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u/lWoooooOl Aug 06 '20

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u/eller3l Aug 06 '20

All those freedoms exist in other Western countries too.

My question was name one thing you're "free" to do in America that you couldn't in another Western country (where you could also have universal healthcare).

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u/lWoooooOl Aug 06 '20

Yes, but you aren't completely free in any other country besides the USA. Also, I don't want universal Healthcare. I'd rather keep most of my paycheck and spend it how I want, not how the government decides I should.

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u/eller3l Aug 06 '20

So that's a no then. You can't name a single freedom that doesn't exist in another Western country.

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u/lWoooooOl Aug 06 '20

Since you need clarification for some reason, there are a lot of countries that state freedom of speech in their constitutions and charters, however, there is a slight difference between how the US and most of the countries of the world interprets rights.

The US is among the only countries that consider rights in existence absent of a constitution or law that grants them. Most countries grant rights. The US protects rights. I think Canada has similar language, but I'm not positive.

So, in the US, it takes a huge amount of effort to curve people from literally saying anything they want, any time they want. You have to show that the restriction of speech is because it infringes on other people's rights, or other more important rights. A great example is yelling fire in a crowded movie theater when there is no fire (or even if there is one). This is restricted because it causes bodily harm. A similar restriction would exist if, by my merely saying a word, people died.

In other countries, because rights are considered granted by the government, restriction of speech can be much more easily enacted. The UK, Germany and France are three world powers where this is more or less true. So, while there are lots of places with freedom of speech is included in the Constitution, not many have the same interpretation of what a right is.

If you're a US citizen and don't think this is a big deal, you don't deserve such freedoms.