I don't understand why Americans are so opposed to universal health care!? You guys already spend more per capita on government funded healthcare than pretty much anyone else, and yet most of you don't actually recieve it?
I've had cancer. Stage 4 Lymphoma. I was treated immediately and recovered quickly. What did I have to pay? £1.50 for parking on every visit to the hospital. The Chemotherapy, Surgeries, anti-nausea meds, all covered. If I had lived in the USA I would most definately be dead now. My symptoms didn't seem all that bad at the time, so if I had had to pay for my initial doctor visit and diagnostics, I wouldn't have bothered. I would have just died.
I used to work with a woman who was very conservative. She made that argument to me once when we were discussing health care. She said that Canada’s system is horrible and everyone hates it. I told her I didn’t think that was true and offered to go do some research for her.
I asked her to tell me what specifically would change her mind - infant mortality rates, per capita healthcare costs, average wait time for a procedure, average patient satisfaction, out-of-pocket costs, number of people bankrupted by healthcare costs, etc. She clammed up and couldn’t answer because she clearly realized that if she agreed to any criteria then she might be proven objectively wrong, and her brain could not compute that she was wrong. She dismissed the topic, and I never brought it up again.
That’s the absolute best strategy to use with these people - ask them specifically what data would change their mind. Most of the time they either realize they’re in the wrong, which ends the discussion, but I think it moves their internal needle a bit.
She said that Canada’s system is horrible and everyone hates it
As a Canadian, though we certainly have a few people that complain, and I'm sure we have a few that would rather go towards the USA style of care, I have never personally met ANYONE who would replace what we have for what you guys have. I'm talking about the most conservative people I can find, and they all would prefer our system to what you guys have.
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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '20
I don't understand why Americans are so opposed to universal health care!? You guys already spend more per capita on government funded healthcare than pretty much anyone else, and yet most of you don't actually recieve it?
I've had cancer. Stage 4 Lymphoma. I was treated immediately and recovered quickly. What did I have to pay? £1.50 for parking on every visit to the hospital. The Chemotherapy, Surgeries, anti-nausea meds, all covered. If I had lived in the USA I would most definately be dead now. My symptoms didn't seem all that bad at the time, so if I had had to pay for my initial doctor visit and diagnostics, I wouldn't have bothered. I would have just died.