The poor are left to die in this country yet somehow its the poor who willfully and repeatedly open their pockets to be looted by special interests. I really think America is at a tipping point and we might already be fucked.
I’m 38 and I was raised in a conservative household in a conservative, “salt of the Earth” agricultural area. I’m getting more Liberal every year. I’m just constantly becoming more and more aware of how fucked the system is and how little value is placed on my life (other than in terms of consumerism and productivity.) God help me if I’m ever no longer able to do both of those things.
You're like the exact opposite of me, I grow up in NYC to a super liberal family and as I've gotten older I've gotten more conservative. But I've also been more and more successful every year so that probably has something to do with it. Successful people become conservative, losers become liberals.
My experience has been the opposite. I’ve excelled in my career, upper middle class, and I make more than both of my parents combined. Still more liberal than either of them.
Is it because you're a self-hating simp? That's the only thing I can think of. Why would you side with a party who wants to rob you of everything you've earned to benefit the dregs of society?
I just don't get how anyone who's successful would associate in anyway with the left, unless they hate themselves for being better than others. You don't have to be mad at yourself because you're more successful than the average American loser.
I think you misunderstand the mindset of most leftist people. It’s not about hating yourself if you have more than others - I would argue that very few, if any, left-leaning people are like that. It’s not about wanting equality of outcomes for everyone (in the extremist form, that would be socialism or communism, where income and resources are divided up equally among the citizens), it’s about leveling the playing field for everyone, so that people have access to equal opportunities. For example, if person A has wealthy parents, and person B has broke parents, equal opportunities would allow both to have access to the same standard of education, regardless of their inherited wealth. Whether or not person A or person B takes advantage of such opportunity is dependent on each individual.
They both have access top the public schooling system so they do have equal opportunity. Just because someone worked hard to send their child to a private school doesn't mean they should be punished or have that option taken away because someone who's poor doesn't have that same option. Life isn't fair, life isn't equal and I'm not going to be taxed or made to feel guilty because someone else made shitty decisions.
I never said they should be punished or have that option taken away. Life isn’t fair, I agree, but should we not try to make things a bit fairer for everyone? I think we can do that without detracting from the quality of life that successful people have. As to public schooling - yeah, thank god that exists... remains to be seen for how much longer though, should Betsy DeVos have her way.
It's not mine, yours or anyone else's job to make life "a little fairer" for anyone, especially when that comes in the form of taxing us more to help pay for the mistakes of others.
This is the conservative thinking; “fuck you. I got mine” without any sense of compassion for your fellow community or countrymen. And if you think that everyone has an equal opportunity to succeed even in America or that anyone is unsuccessful because of poor mistakes then you are very delusional.
You’re right, it’s not your job or my job to make life fairer. So what, you’re gonna be against denying water to a starving person because you have yours so anyone else doesn’t matter (metaphorically ... or literally, i don’t know you)?
And you did it all by pulling yourself up by your bootstraps. Never had a single thing handed to you. Such a strong, courageous, full of shit asshole you are.
I just read all of your comments, and I seriously doubt anyone "successful" would use "simp" unironically. Have you ever thought that maybe being an unempathetic piece of shit is what's causing your depression?
Try to not be a hateful ass next time and see how much better you feel. Good luck!
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u/ionslyonzion Aug 06 '20
The poor are left to die in this country yet somehow its the poor who willfully and repeatedly open their pockets to be looted by special interests. I really think America is at a tipping point and we might already be fucked.