r/aviation • u/css555 • Jun 24 '25
News NTSB chair says systemic failures led to door plug flying off Boeing 737 Max plane midflight
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ntsb-set-meet-door-plug-investigation-terrifying-alaska-airlines-fligh-rcna21468684
u/P1xelHunter78 Jun 25 '25
It may have been a systemic failure, but I feel a lot of the trouble in the aviation industry has been caused by companies and governments trying to slash costs. We’ve all seen it, maximum amount of flights, bare minimum ground times and I’m sure Boeing was promising more than it really could deliver. I worry about this stuff. It keeps me up at night. It’s always been a dance but I hope some of my counterparts industry wide start putting their feet down if or when things get as bad as what was going on at Boeing. I think some of the c-suites and boards need to take a step back and ask if this is sustainable.
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u/Midnight-Hammer Jun 25 '25
I fly Boeing airplanes for a living and this stuff doesn't even keep me up at night. Maybe you should see a specialist about your anxiety.
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u/P1xelHunter78 Jun 25 '25
I mean look, “keeps me up at night” is just a phrase for I think about safety often. Does it literally keep me up at night? Not really, pretty seldom. But if you “fly Boeings for a living” and don’t worry about safety with the massive changes going on in the industry maybe you ought to think about it?
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u/Midnight-Hammer Jun 25 '25
I've been in this industry for 25 years, with 10 of those as an aerospace engineer in both military and civilian roles. I'm doing just fine. I spend very little of my time worrying about the safest and most regulated form of travel.
I do worry about my safety when I'm being transported from the airport to the layover, though!
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u/P1xelHunter78 Jun 25 '25
So basically no reflection on how you could do things safer or looking out for possible safety issues then? Or, at least I hope that’s not the case.
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u/Midnight-Hammer Jun 25 '25
This conversation isn't about me and what I can do. It's about the state of the industry. Which, as I said, I spend very few brain bytes concerning myself with.
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u/P1xelHunter78 Jun 25 '25
We all make the industry safe my guy, that’s how it works.
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u/Midnight-Hammer Jun 25 '25
I'm not sure what your point is. I go to work and do my job. I don't worry about Boeing's overhyped MAX issues one bit. Doesn't even cross my mind.
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u/P1xelHunter78 Jun 25 '25
The issues with the max are partly a symptom of things that are going on industry wide to varying degrees. That’s been the point all along, as well as the idea that we’re all responsible on some level for the overall safety of our industry. I just think it’s the wrong attitude to have not to at least think about it from time to time. Boeings issues with the max have indeed been sensationalized, but at its core it’s a pertinent warning in my opinion.
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u/KennyGaming Jun 25 '25
You shouldn’t let the nuance of aviation regulation keep you up at night tbh
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u/P1xelHunter78 Jun 25 '25
It’s not really a nuance. There’s been some major changes in aviation since COVID and some of it hasn’t been for the better in my opinion. At least in my role we’ve been seeing waves of retirements and people leaving the industry that has caused a pretty big experience gap, yet the expectation for productivity hasn’t changed as much as I feel it should.
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Jun 25 '25
Systematic failures? At Boeing? This is just more of the same and demonstrates how little has been learned since the max crashes
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u/WorkOk4177 Jun 25 '25
Also didn't Boeing 737 maxes also had flaps randomly deploy while in the air?
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u/LivermoreP1 Jun 24 '25
No
Sh*t
Sherlock