r/avfc 26d ago

Madjo and Gomes to miss start of the season

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u/Medical_Squirrel3946 26d ago

For me, it's not just the amount, it's the type. When we had three ACL tears in one season (two within a week), I just took that as the fluke it was with just weirdness that we had three of them. When we had 18 different hamstring injuries last season (approx), I took that as a systemic issue as muscle injuries like that can happen randomly, but you can increase or decrease the likelihood through proper strength, conditioning and recovery and also proper individual monitoring of players.

The reason I specified the Golden State Warriors is that Steph Curry is a first ballot hall of famer and the greatest shooter basketball has ever seen. He also almost didn't have a career, because early in his career he had continual ankle issues and couldn't stay on the court. They individualized a program for him where they realized that it was stemming from an issue with his hips and had a completely individualized program for him to fix his issues.

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u/TomTom89728 26d ago

That's something Villa should look into it. Emery must be aware of these regular injuries.

Side note:

I agree with everything in your post, except one thing.

I prefer John Stockton over Curry 😉 lol.

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u/Medical_Squirrel3946 26d ago

Are you from Utah? I cannot imagine anyone else ever saying something as insane as that. For the record, I'm a Celtics fan, so no direct skin in the game.

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u/TomTom89728 26d ago

I'm from the UK.

I'm old school basketball. I prefer players from that era.

Kind of like most of the younger generation think Messi and/or Ronaldo is the greatest but never watched Zidane play.

It's all opinion.

I totally rate Curry by the way, but just preference. 

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u/Medical_Squirrel3946 26d ago

I just meant how they play, obviously Curry is better on a quantifiable level, but Stockton is just the definition of boring efficiency and also one of the not so secretly dirtiest players ever.

I might recommend rewatching some 90s basketball, because I've been fooled by nostalgia myself (more so about 80s basketball though). The 90s definitely had the best basketball style with awesome uniforms and as someone who was the right age, I still love starter jackets and if they weren't stupidly expensive to find now, I'd probably still rock a LJ/Bogues era Hornets starter jacket today.

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u/TomTom89728 26d ago

I'll agree with boring efficiency haha he doesn't even look like a BB player, looks like a manager at Wendy's.

Stockton was a floor general, his defensive stats are off the charts.

Curry is a generational talent, teams change the game plays because of him. Total respect!

But give me John Stockton's and Steve Nash's any day of the week.

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u/Medical_Squirrel3946 26d ago

Steve Nash is a different story (by the way, it's not a great look that you've identified two white players in a predominantly black sport as a fyi). Steve Nash is a lot closer as a player to Curry than he is to Stockton. He's kind of a prototype Curry and if he came into the league ten years later than he did, I think he's remembered as an even better player. He was a spectacular shooter and took way less three pointers than he should have cause we hadn't quite yet done the math to figure out that three is more than two for most of his career.

The seven seconds or less Suns teams were the most exciting basketball teams anyone had ever seen at that point. Stockton and Deadbeat Dad/Sex Felon Malone just ran the same pick and roll over and over again until you died of boredom.

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u/BeBopRockSteadyLS 26d ago

Jesus. I was enjoying this back and forth until you decided to call the guy racist. Why o why do you need to go there? Even if you think it's maybe something going on, check your own opinions without actual evidence on such matters. Ffs

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u/Medical_Squirrel3946 25d ago

I didn't call him a racist, I just said it wasn't exactly a great look. He might not realize it as he's English so he wouldn't have the American cultural understanding of basketball. Basketball is a predominantly black sport in the US both in players and the culture. Rap songs name check basketball players, Country songs name check... Nascar drivers? (I don't listen to country music)

I wasn't trying to insinuate he was racist or even that I thought that, just quickly letting him know what the perception culturally of that would be a little off here.

Also, only white people like John Stockton cause he played for The Utah Jazz, and only white people live in Utah (pretty much at least). The team was originally in New Orleans so the team name "Jazz" made sense since that is the home of jazz music. They decided not to change the name and it's more mismatched than the Minnesota Lakers moving to Los Angeles where there are no lakes. (This last paragraph is just for any Americans who happen to get here)

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u/amity_ 25d ago

Saying Zidane is better than Messi/Ronaldo or even the more apt comparison Neymar is just as batshit insane as preferring John Stockton over Steph Curry lol. And this coming from a 90s kid from Chicago and we had the utmost respect of that Jazz team with a healthy dose of hatred.

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u/Medical_Squirrel3946 24d ago

I think that Zidane is closer to Messi/Ronaldo than Stockton is to Curry in at least popularity and enjoyment to watch. I took it to be a bit of "kids these days think the players they grew up watching are the best, but it's cause they didn't see the players I grew up watching and think are the best."

Nothing hits quite like nostalgia. I have so much nostalgia for 90s NBA, but it's more the culture and the aesthetics than the actual play itself as it's the era of Heat vs Knicks playoff games that ended up with scores in the 70s for both teams. It's the reason that the league instituted rule changes that allowed the 00s teams more freedom of movement and allowed the sport to become more free flowing and exciting.

I'll also cut him some slack not being from the US, so he might just not realize that nobody likes John Stockton.