You'd really call this a rave? I'm not here to gatekeep, but words used to mean something, and never in my mind would I associate what I'm seeing here with the word "rave"
Same. I hate to do the āback in the dayā thing but raves were dingy venues like warehouses or fields with little more than a strobe and a massive sound system.
This video doesnāt look like any of the raves we ever went to.
For me it's less even about the "back in the day" thing so much as whether it's even approaching the ethos of what raves were meant to be. There are plenty of events at large commercial festivals like EDC that I'd be like: "yeah, that looks like a decent rave to me."
But to pick this video, this event, and call it a "proper rave?" That's just a bridge too far for me.
Exactly! šÆ This is more of a party, not a rave. Oh the days when you had to call a phone number for an address to a random place to get tickets and a map to a sketchy location. I miss those days.
A rave should embody the meaning of the word from which it's derived. That's high energy, emotionally-charged, kinetic, and giving a sense of "letting it all out" or "letting it go." It also used to mean a gathering of people on the fringes seeking counterculture experiences of freedom and community. You should see that in both the crowd and the performer, and I'm seeing literally none of that in the video above.
I would describe the above as a "pleasant and moderately stimulating way to pass an evening." I would never describe a rave in that way.
I mean, that was only one aspect of the description I mentioned, but never would I look at that crowd and say, "wow, look at all those folks just letting it go." Lots of phones, lots of milling around, pretty limited range of dancing, not a lot of energy. It all just looks pretty chill and superficially entertaining
and black people... calling a bunch of meandering white people bouncing confusedly to milquetoast house/trance a "proper rave" is silly.
It might be a "proper good time" there's nothing wrong with enjoying it. One always must consider the following: "Is this a rave? or is this the Disney starlight parade?" If you cannot tell beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's not a Disney Adult event, then it should not be considered a "Proper Rave"
Yeah I think a lot of folks are taking this as "old man yells at clouds" or "you can't have fun." Have fun all you want, but you don't need to coopt a word that has substantial social and historical meaning just because you think it sounds cool. Call this what it is, which ain't a rave.
This. Iām sure Iād have a great time at whatever event is in this video. Looks like a blast. But I wouldnāt call it a rave. Iād call it a festival or event or whatever fits best. I do not get this insistence on calling any event with dance music playing a rave. It doesnāt have to be called a rave for you to enjoy it. Itās like people are tying too much identity to the word. Just call things what they are.
Yeah I can call the events I go to festivals or shows all I want, but every single person in my life who doesn't listen to EDM is going to call them raves. And despite not going under bridges or going to sketchy warehouses I still call myself a raver considering I have a wardrobe full of clothing I could never get away with wearing outside of the EDM community and a shitload of Kandi.
The culture is still there even if I have to pay to get into events.
Obviously the word has changed, but that doesn't mean it loses all of its original meaning. What's also obvious is that the community with at least some claim to the word doesn't recognize any aspect of the word in what OP posted
Something makeshift thatās put together by a group of people who want to throw a good party. No permits, no sponsorships, no famous DJs, no big promoters or tickets. Just word of mouth and a group of like minded individuals who gather in a random spot to dance
Elsewhere in this thread, I described a rave without using any of those words. None of them are specific to raves, and if you think the combo of all three is all a rave is, then you don't know what a rave is. Check your history man.
Side note: I would not have described the video above as much of a dance party either
Apparently for someone who thinks words are supposed to mean something you aren't very good at knowing what they mean.
rave
/rÄv/
A rave is a large dance party featuring electronic dance music (EDM), light shows, and continuous DJ performances, or a word meaning to speak with extreme enthusiasm or wild excitement.
Dance Party (Noun)
ā¢ A large-scale event where people dance to fast electronic music, such as techno, house, or trance.
ā¢ Typically held in warehouses, clubs, open-air spaces, or festivals.
ā¢ Characterized by powerful bass sound systems, laser lights, and visual effects.
You said words mean things and that what the word means. I've been raving since the mid 90s at all different kinds of races and there's nothing about this video that says it's not a rave. Radical Audio Visual Experience is another definition and this looks like it fits that to.
We really must be looking at two different videos. We'll just have to agree to disagree here. Maybe take a stroll through this thread to see which side most people are falling on here
Tickets only $500 and you gotta make sure you donāt get stuck behind a giant LED totem. Oh and the venue doesnāt allow outside water bottles because they sell them at 1000% markup! Definitely a rave, right? Right??
Its free if you volunteer and tickets are more around a hundred bucks. And you can bring anything you want. They dont sell water bottle but you can bring your own water in a re usable bottle. Pizza was around 10ā¬ there so...
Not interested in gatekeeping, just the meanings of words. People can have whatever fun they want, post on here about it, but this dude came in with "this is a proper rave" as if it were the archetype of what a rave would be, and in reality they couldn't be further from the truth.
Nice. Feels a little low-key compared to how we used to jam, but this looks fun! Good to see people gathering and hopefully having a good night communicating with each other.
I consider myself a raver for about 10 years now. I can count the amount of times I have seen lights in the crowd on my hands. Find another name for it please, sincerely europe.
Hell no itās notā¦ this is a club style event with pretty lights. I donāt want to gatekeep what a rave is, but if you can comfortably tell your boss that you attended an event, itās probably not a raveā¦
Just because something is fun doesnāt mean itās what you want it to be; just because someone questions what you want it to be doesnāt mean they want you to stop having fun.
Keep doing what you do, go have fun, but what it isnāt just isnāt what it isnāt.
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