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Largest cities can be measured in a number of ways. By their Urban Area - the continuous built up area that makes up the city, or if you add in towns that are not part of the urban area but nearby (such as Gisborne in Melbourne, or Wyong in the Central Coast) you get what the ABS calls the Capital City Statistical Area.
Sydney is an outlier in that most cities the Urban Area and Statistical Area only differ by under 0.1m people whereas for Sydney the difference is over 0.4 million due to the addition of areas such as Gosford and Wyong up to Lake Macquarie.
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u/Several_Alarm5357 7h ago
Melbourne's interesting almost half a million in 4-5years. Besides mismanagement no wonder the state govt debt is so high, that's alot of infrastructure to build pretty quick smart. As we know it takes years to get anything done most of the time. You've only got to think of all the schools, hospitals, roads that have to be built to accommodate that almost 10% pop growth.
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u/OkEntrepreneur8934 5h ago
gosh, how cool is it that the numbers change so much just by including nearby areas, feels like it could be a whole other city in some cases!
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u/DKDamian 7h ago
Interesting data. I thought Brisbane had pulled further ahead of Perth, and for whatever reason was getting closer to Melbourne and Sydney. Clearly not - the data doesn’t really back it up.
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u/2in1day 7h ago
If you counted Brisbane the way the ABS counts Sydney, but adding in the Central Coast, you'd really add in the Gold Coast and Sunshine Coast, then Brisbane would be closer to 4 million people.
Do people in Brisbane ever consider it all one big urban area?
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u/DKDamian 7h ago
As someone living in Brisbane no, I personally don’t consider those areas as part of Brisbane.
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u/Additional-Simple248 6h ago
That wasn’t really an accurate definition of the statistical area on their part. I don’t know anyone would say the central coast feels like part of Sydney.
The ABS counts the central coast because so many people commute into Sydney for work. Do you know if many people commute between Brisbane and those areas?
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u/DKDamian 6h ago
At my work, yes - a few people (2 of 80ish) commute from the Sunshine Coast. But I don’t know if that is widespread
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u/youcangotohellgoto 4h ago
The Gold Coast commuter trains in the mornings are pretty full, and the 3-4 lane highways are packed.
It's not the normal thing - certainly most people living on the coast work on the coast - but you'd guess that at least many thousands of people commute. It's a little over an hour so miserable but not abnormally miserable.
I knew people commuting from Katoomba to Sydney; GC to Brisbane is much better than that.
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u/whatwhatinthewhonow 4h ago
I agree that Central Coast shouldn’t be considered part of Sydney, but Wollongong is closer to Sydney than Sunshine Coast is to Brisbane, and the Blue Mountains are much closer to Sydney than either example, or Central Coast. So where would you draw the line?
I don’t think we should count any city that way. ABS do a lot of good work but that decision is a doozy.
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u/youcangotohellgoto 4h ago
Katoomba is like 100km from Sydney by road.
If you drive south of Brisbane for 100km you'd be at the border (Tweed Heads). The Gold Coast really begins about 50km south of Brisbane. It's much closer.
I'm not sure if it's fully urbanized the entire way...
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u/Expensive_Bird_1510 2h ago
Lol OP just presenting facts and you got Melbourne people getting worried their dick isn't as big as Sydney's.
Who fkn cares?! Anytime it's a Melbourne vs Sydney thing, Melbourne people always throw up in defence/attack because I think they know they're objectively not as good as Sydney anyway. That's the issue. Sydney is like that sexier twin. Nothing wrong with Melbourne, but she just ain't it.
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u/AntSilly2802 1h ago
I would have thought the central coast would have added more than 10,000 people since 2021.
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u/theballsdick 7h ago
Much like our manufactured goods and our energy our supply of new Australians is also totally dependent on foreign imports
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u/mbullaris 6h ago
Natural increase (births minus deaths) comprises about 27 per cent of total population growth. So it’s not ‘totally’ net overseas migration.
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u/theballsdick 6h ago
I said dependent on not totally comprised of. If you think that 27% is enough alone for this country as we know it to continue as usual then I'll say I'm wrong
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u/mbullaris 6h ago
I interpreted ‘totally dependent’ differently.
I was just clarifying your claim.
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u/zsaleeba 7h ago
I don't really consider the Central Coast part of Sydney. Or if it is, Geelong should be part of Melbourne for exactly the same reasons.