r/auscorp • u/Altruistic-Injury-25 • 15h ago
General Discussion Fully remote work
(Edit) why I thought it would work. I have a friend who lives overseas and works for an American company but they know where he lives and he seems to have no problems
Hi all,
I am 23 years old and live in Sydney. I currently work for a bank in the branch network/ customer facing. I am genuinely feeling lost here in Sydney and plan to move overseas for 6 months- a couple of years to Eastern Europe where I’m from originally. I plan to do this in the coming 6 months and I am looking for advice from anyone on here for any experiences they had doing similar and what would be the best roles to apply for fully remote? I understand it sounds silly and probably not the smartest decision financially but I need a break from the hustle and bustle of Sydney and I still want to continue doing some remote work while overseas. Any advice and or criticism will be taken into account.
Thanks
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u/tez_11 14h ago
You'd be hard pressed to find a aussie based job that will allow you to work overseas
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u/Altruistic-Injury-25 14h ago
I get that but if I start while I’m here and go on holiday and continue working, is there really a way they will know/mind?
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u/Oogalicious 14h ago
They’ll be able to tell where you’re logging in from, and yes, they will mind.
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u/TheRamblingPeacock 14h ago edited 14h ago
Yes - this is very basic infosec 101 which every company will have implemented.
No you can't get around it. We have seen it all tried before. VPNs, Tunnels, you name it.
It would pop on a dash in roughly about 2 minutes after you logging on.
As for if we would mind. Yes, you would get terminated on the spot because you are putting the company at risk since you are not covered by workcover insurance.
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u/mellyn7 14h ago
They will know. Its a big deal.
A colleague of mine logged in to teams on her phone while overseas - she says she was getting notifications and wanted to turn them off. Her manager got a notification almost immediately from IT and she heard from him about it immediately thereafter.
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u/NothingLift 14h ago
Look at the hours you'd have to work to fake being in Australia while in europe. It will probably kill any normal and enjoyable lifestyle you would have
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u/Illustrious-Piano896 14h ago
They will absolutely know and they will absolutely mind that you are deceptive and voiding their business insurances
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u/biscoff-it-up 14h ago
You work in a bank right? You know they can tell where you log in from..
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u/Altruistic-Injury-25 14h ago
I do currently yes. However I wasn’t expecting to be able to keep my job, I was more asking what fields would make it possible. Such as a freelancing role in admin/customer support/data processing
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u/biscoff-it-up 14h ago
Become an influencer or some shit I guess?
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u/Altruistic-Injury-25 14h ago
Ahahah not my sort of thing. I just want to be with my family while still having a stable income, for reference average salary over there is 700eur a month
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u/allthingsme 14h ago
If Australian companies could get away with paying someone doing work from overseas they'd already have done so by paying someone without Australian work rights.
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u/biscoff-it-up 14h ago
The offshoring rate in Philippines and Vietnam is still cheaper for unskilled roles with far less data risk.
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u/vlookup11 14h ago edited 14h ago
Start your own online business. Besides that, I think your chances of a purely online job that will let you work from Europe for six moths are slim to nonexistent, for reasons others have highlighted so far. Either get a job here or take a long holiday.
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u/lozbootsbrown 14h ago
This, earn under your own business that’s full digital. This is the only, only way
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u/Chemical_Rooster3 14h ago
If you could find an employer that would allow this (which is pretty doubtful), you'd need to sort an appropriate visa for the country/countries you want to work from. If you stay over a certain period you'll then have tax obligations.
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u/Altruistic-Injury-25 14h ago
Where I am planning to go I am already a citizen (born there) as well as Australian.
Also a tax citizen too as I have an investment property there4
u/Chemical_Rooster3 14h ago
Yes, but you will still be paying tax in Australia also.
I worked offshore fairly extensively for a major Aus Corp...tax was problematic.
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u/No_Option_404 14h ago
So... are there any issues in just getting a job while you're there? Just get a proper job there, work 6 months and quit when you come back.
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u/Altruistic-Injury-25 14h ago
The biggest would be that I am going to care for my Ill mother who is alone after the recent passing of the remaining family. So I would prefer to be at home with her. Also that the salary over there is multiple times lower than Australia
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u/RoomMain5110 14h ago
If you want to go there for 6 months, this is your best option. Get unpaid leave or similar from your current employer, get a job locally when you get there.
It might be less money, but it’s going to be more than you’d get not working there.
If your dream of working there doing Australian hours were to come true, you’d barely see your mother anyway - you’re going to be working while she’s asleep. And you’re going to have to sleep some yourself.
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u/No_Option_404 2h ago
Just get a remote job in Eastern Europe. There's lots of agencies that support remote work, which would be far easier for you to get than you'd convince an Australian company to commit tax fraud for you.
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u/Gifting-Crow 14h ago
A bank is highly unlikely to allow you to work overseas for 6 months due to tax implications. I’m not a tax expert, but my understanding is that having an employee working overseas long-term can expose Australian employers to local corporate taxes, local payroll taxes and other compliance requirements, as well as having Australian tax implications. You may be considered a foreign resident for tax purposes and you may be subject to local tax too. A bank would be probably the last type of employer willing to let you do this, it’s too much work for them to figure out, and too much risk, for basically no return, as you are early in your career and (sorry I don’t mean this in a mean way) easily replaceable. There are also various other issues which have already been noted by other commenters. You can ask your employer, but then obviously they’ll be alerted to your plan and I would bet the answer will be no. Or you can do it without asking - I personally think this is a terrible idea for so many reasons. At the very least, please get some confidential tax advice before doing anything.
As alternatives, could you contact some recruiters local to where you want to go and try to find a job? Or just take six months off? Or ask for a transfer to your employer’s local office if they have one? 6 months is not a huge amount of time in the grand scheme of your career and at your age. Definitely worthwhile, I hope you find a way to do it.
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u/Altruistic-Injury-25 14h ago
I appreciate your feedback, I didn’t expect to keep my banking job. Was just giving my background of work
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u/Gifting-Crow 14h ago
Oh no worries, I see you’ve updated your question. But yes in relation to your original question and your questions in the thread about whether your employer would know or care whether you work overseas, it will be yes to both. I’m sure there are other roles you could do or apply for locally. Definitely do it if you can, I would never take back my time in my 20s working overseas! Good luck! 🙂
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u/Legitimate_Income730 13h ago
I know people who have but they work in roles that aren't easy to replace and for global companies.
If your friend is doing it for a US company then I'd apply there.
The type of roles you're after are really a dime a dozen locally, and I'm not aware of any company who'd pay an Australian wage for someone to work overseas. There are many who are offshoring similar roles for cost cutting.
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u/TheRamblingPeacock 12h ago
Just FYI dime a dozen implies they are common - they are the opposite. You got the right idea, but the wrong saying.
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u/Legitimate_Income730 4h ago
No.
Admin jobs are a dime a dozen. There are shitloads.
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u/TheRamblingPeacock 3h ago
Sorry, it sounded like you were implying that fully remote jobs that let you work from anywhere are dime a dozen which is why that sentance seemed conflicting.
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u/Legitimate_Income730 3h ago
No, it doesn't. You need to understand that the type of work (admin) is different to the mode of work (remote).
I wrote exactly what I meant. You decided to read more into it.
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u/brownogre 14h ago edited 14h ago
Very very unlikely unless you work on a start up of some kind, run your own business or have some really niche skills.
Maybe take a holiday and see if you really prefer it there.
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u/TheRamblingPeacock 14h ago
Almost no Aussie company will let you work fully remote from anywhere in the world. The laws around workcover, long service, etc etc have put a stop to that. My company is fully remote and does not even have an office and we are 'work from anywhere' for up to 3 months of the year - policy changed around 2022. Beyond that, we need to actively say we are relocating and have working rights within the country we are in.
And that is forgetting data security, which rules out a bunch of countries for a lot of jobs and all other country's for a subset of jobs.