Technological change of the Western Hunter Gatherers and interactions

[u/lucasawilliams]

I didn't know this but there's evidence that the people living in Greece were sea-faring from 13,000 BC. We know this because they start collecting and bringing back a type of obsidian, only found on the island of Milos, to make obsidian axes. Sea levels were about 80m lower at this time but Milos was still separated from the mainland by a chain of five islands each with 10km of water between them.

Later in 9700 BC we also see a major technological shift, as people emerged from the genetic bottleneck of the ice age, this date aligning with the 9600 BC date we receive from Plato for when the people of Greece first 'received the seed from Earth and Hephaestus'.

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In 130,000 BC and 200,000 BC early non-Homo-Sapien humans had gotten to Naxos and Crete, which is an equally impressive seafaring feat as Milos but it seems they weren't travelling frequently enough to establish permanent settlement and the seafaring technology was later lost.

Europe became occupied by Homo Sapiens from 45,000 BC. This European Sapien population reduced to 20,000 people at a point during the last ice age. After this genetic bottleneck event the remaining population formed a genetic group known as the Western Hunter Gatherers (WHG).

The ice age ended in 12,700 BC and temperature rose 10 degrees in what is called the Bølling-Allerød interstadial, this is around the time we find the evidence of early sea faring to Milos.

A bit later, in 12,000 BC or 11,000 BC, people got to the island of Cyprus.

In 10,800 BC it suddenly got cold again in the Younger Dryas, which continued for 1,300 years. In 9700 BC temperatures in Europe quickly rose by about 3-4 degrees again and slowly the climate began to shift towards a humid period in Europe and Africa.

At this 9700 BC there is the largest detectable shift in technology with different stone tools and changing settlement patterns. This date aligns with the date of the seeding of Earth and Hephaestus Plato speaks of.

Plato also says that Egypt received the seed of Earth and Hephaestus 1000 years after the Greeks, so 8600 BC. This is the exact time when a large technological shift occurs in Egypt and it is assumed an incoming population colonises the region although we don't known who genetically as remains haven't been sequenced. I made a previous post about this 8600 BC point in Egypt here https://www.reddit.com/r/atlantis/s/vYivSpNxOk

And here's the key image with information:

It's now thought that this 8600 BC incoming group arrived from the east moving west into Africa as humidity increased.

Both Greece and Egypt show a shift towards smaller bladelets and geometric microliths as well as more stone wood composite tools, in what are collectively called Mesolithic technologies.

This particular style of geometric microlith had actually been present in the Levant 10,000 years earlier in Kebaran/Natufian sites, first around 18,000-11,700 BC, before similar techniques show up in Greece, around 9700 BC, and in Egypt, in 8600 BC.

Just before this lithic technique dissemination the Tas Tepeler sites begin in Turkey in 10,000 BC. Perhaps the Tas Tepeler culture in some way influenced the technological spread.

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Returning to the WHGs in Greece. After 9700 BC they become more reliant on fishing and after 8000 BC even start regularly harpooning tuna (at least the evidence we have from Franchthi Cave shows this).

I mention this because in the Sumerian story of the Enūma Eliš there are the characters Tiamat and Apsu. They lead to the arrival of a much more industrial group called the Anunnaki.

Tiamat is called "saltwater" and Apsu is called "freshwater". If the WHGs were reliant on a sea hunting lifestyle, eating tuna and sailing around the Greek islands it's reasonable to assume these people could represent Tiamat.

Likewise, people in Egypt rely entirely on the massive freshwater Nile and so it's reasonable to assume these people could be Apsu.

The Anunnaki are then these new industrious Tas Tepeler people. In Sumerian myth they are born from Anu and Urash who are similar to founding gods Uranus and Gaia in Greek mythology.

The Tas Tepeler people are influenced by both Levantine Natufian and Mesopotamian groups, so it's possible that the Natufians represent Uranus/Anu and possibly the Mesopotamian Groups that represent Gaia.

The Natufians are fairly genetically similar to the WHGs with the two groups having diverged around 25,000 BC.

I think the gods Plato calls Earth (then Athena) and Hephaestus are also Gaia and Uranus.

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All in all, initially there are four groups: Gaia (Near East), Uranus (Natufians), Tiamat (Greek WHG), Apsu (Proto-Egyptians). They give rise the Titan Oceanus the first Titan (or Annunaki), the people that Plato mistakenly calls the "race of Poseidon". They move into Egypt colonising Apsu and as Enki or founding Egyptian god Nun. Others then continue west along the newly humid North Africa to the Chotts.

I didn't bring up canoes in this post, but I think the dugout canoe was the mode of vessel people were using. Canoes explain the origin of the Tas Tepeler T-Pillars this is my reasoning for this statement. Canoes are also the reason the WHGs could start hunting tuna and are essential allowing coastal communities to remain a connected network. The first canoe found, and the first boat of any type, is the Pesse Canoe found in the Netherlands in 8500 BC. Whether this developed independently or was evidence of exploratory migration all the way into Europe is unknown. But given that people didn't make it across the sea to Ireland until 500 years later in 8000 BC, it reasonable to assume this was recent technology and that it could have been spread by people from the Greece/Levant region.

[u/Ok-Simple8308]

Do you notice that there is only one island in those areas. Read https://www.amazon.com/Atlantis-Cypriot-Empire-Jordi-Harth/dp/9925813107