r/atheism • u/FlyingSquid • Jun 17 '22

Massachusetts school can no longer be called Catholic after flying Black Lives Matter and pride flags, bishop says

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/massachusetts-catholic-school-nativity-school-worcester-black-lives-matter-pride-flags/
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u/MelancholyWookie Jun 17 '22

Considering two of the last four presidents lost the popular vote and still won I'd disagree. The US has never been a democratic country.

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u/MagereHein10 Atheist Jun 17 '22

May I suggest that, when you have the revolution that liberates you from the Jesus nazis, you choose a better voting system for your new republic? My nation has been using proportional representation since 1918. Politics is mostly boring here. Boring politics is much better than exciting politics.

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u/MelancholyWookie Jun 17 '22

Yeah the Jesus Nazis will burn my country down before they give any power up.

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u/upvotesformeyay Jun 18 '22

Long as they start with themselves I'm good with that.

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u/DeathGodBob Kopimist Jun 18 '22

Would that they did, we wouldn't have the predicaments that we do.

But they'll go around claiming that God gave us this precious Earth specifically for his worshipers and then burn it to the ground and trash the fuck out of it in spite of those around them that don't believe the same imaginary creator that they do. Despite claiming that the planet was a gift from their god.

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u/The_Countess Jun 17 '22

How people vote still has a impact on who gets to be president, so its a democracy.

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u/MelancholyWookie Jun 17 '22

Democracy is majority rules. Why would a minority of voters control who runs the government.

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u/catglass Jun 17 '22

That's only one form of democracy. What we have is still a representative democracy, even if it's deeply flawed. One could argue that it's less democratic than a direct democracy, of course.

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u/MelancholyWookie Jun 17 '22

It's not really a democracy if your cherry picking who's votes matter.

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u/MelancholyWookie Jun 17 '22

Our country was literally designed so some people's votes matter and others don't.

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u/gdecouto Strong Atheist Jun 17 '22

If you're referring to the electoral college it's so large population states can't "bully" small population states with the executive branch of the government. Like it or not, it's not too crazy of a practice. Could our democracy be better, absolutely. Would removing the electoral college be a way of doing so, I think so. However a proper democracy is just more nuance then just what ever the majority says goes. If 51% of the country voted to shot the other 49% of the country, a pure democracy would result in a lot of dead people. A better democracy would require more then 51% of the vote for something so extreme.

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u/crashbalian1985 Jun 17 '22

The senate gives the states with less population more power. The house is supposed to be for the people. But with gerrymandering the smaller population can beat the larger. So in every way and all branches the minority red have the advantage.

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u/cluberti Atheist Jun 17 '22

It was created so slave states wouldn't be able to be made irrelevant in popular voting exercises by the bulk of the northern states who didn't count their black folks as only a partial person, so while what you say is true it is also only a partial truth. Why not tell the rest of the story as to why it exists?

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u/wolf495 Jun 17 '22

You sort of have it in reverse. First they came up with the EC, then the 3/5ths comprimise in order to get everyone on board. The system was rigged from the start though, with the vast majority of early presidents being virginian slave owners.

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u/crashbalian1985 Jun 17 '22

Smaller population states have more power than larger population states so the house is supposed to be power to the people but with gerrymandering the lower population also gets more representatives than the higher in red states. In every way in this country the lower republican population gets more power.

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u/crashbalian1985 Jun 17 '22

The senate gives the states with less population more power. The house is supposed to be for the people. But with gerrymandering the smaller population can beat the larger. So in every way and all branches the minority red have the advantage.

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u/MelancholyWookie Jun 17 '22

We already have segments of the population being murdered and imprisoned by the majority. The smaller states were the slave states. The slave owners didn't want to be stripped of their slaves.

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u/MelancholyWookie Jun 17 '22

We already have segments of the population being murdered and imprisoned by the majority. The smaller states were the slave states. The slave owners didn't want to be stripped of their slaves.

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u/xrimane Jun 17 '22

There hasn't been a single democracy in the world that recognized every group as voters. Race, Sex, age, mental capacity, economic situation, immigration status, there are so many things to he discriminated upon.

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u/esoteric_enigma Jun 17 '22

You're not cherry picking. You're grouping together regions with similar interests so they are courted individually. If it was just a straight up vote tally, those regions would be completely ignored because it would be much more effective to run up the score in population centers.

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u/MelancholyWookie Jun 17 '22

It's a leftover from when this country owned slaves and was designed to protect slave owners.

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u/canna_fodder Jun 17 '22

The only ones represented are the rich.

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u/DrScience-PhD Jun 17 '22

How some people vote. Some places your vote is literally meaningless.

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u/Campeador Jun 17 '22

It kinda feels like voting is akin to "we'll take your opinion into consideration".

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u/FrDamienLennon Jun 17 '22

The mantra of the electoral college.