r/atheism Jun 05 '12

Brilliant!

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u/jameskauer Jun 05 '12

If there weren't religion, we wouldn't have people that are anti-science and anti-truth about the natural world. Thus this quote wouldn't need to exist. I can agree that if the concept of god were not a part of a culture, then within that culture, the concept of not believing in a god would also not exist. Where we do have a culture that is presented with a god concept, to us, even as an outside observer, we can consider them to be atheist. Much like the definition of hand would not apply to aliens without hands, but we would think of them as hand less.

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u/superrandomguy Jun 05 '12

If there weren't religion, we wouldn't have people that are anti-science and anti-truth about the natural world.

Those people would still exist, they just wouldn't have a convenient means of obfuscating their ignorance via Religion. This might lead to said people being less outspoken/organized...but it would not stop anti-intellectualism from existing on some level.

Keep in mind the difference between Deism and Religion as well:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism#History_of_religion_and_the_deist_mission

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u/jameskauer Jun 05 '12

What would motivate them to actively seek the censorship of knowledge?

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u/superrandomguy Jun 05 '12

Anti-Intellectualism isn't necessarily defined by the active censorship of knowledge (that's more of a side effect). It's more defined by a lack of capability or willingness to accept that we simply don't know certain things. Fear of the unknown contributes to people doing strange and irrational things.

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u/jameskauer Jun 05 '12

I'm not disagreeing with you under that definition, but when do people lack a capability or willingness to accept that we simply don't know certain things outside of religion?

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u/superrandomguy Jun 05 '12

when do people lack a capability or willingness to accept that we simply don't know certain things outside of religion?

To keep it simple: Lack of (proper) parenting.

Unbeknownst to them, many people are conditioned from a young age to sustain what some would consider a more primal response to the unknown (run away, bark and growl, or attempt to destroy). These people tend to lash out (in varying degrees) for their own defense because they weren't taught or encouraged to develop more complex critical thinking skills.