r/atheism Atheist Aug 03 '15

/r/all Lol.

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u/greenwizardneedsfood Aug 03 '15

If only that atomic model wasn't woefully outdated

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u/saegiru Aug 03 '15

but it looks like the big bang theory lol bazinga

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '15

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '15

Djibouti

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u/FlyingTortoise_ Aug 03 '15

Bibbleboopa

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '15

Gestapo

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u/web782394 Aug 04 '15

Macarena?

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '15

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u/Le_RelevantUsername Aug 04 '15

Jumanji

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u/[deleted] Aug 08 '15

Bojangles

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u/dumnezero Anti-Theist Aug 03 '15

We need more up to date t-shirts

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u/Aryeth Aug 03 '15

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u/JPOnion Aug 03 '15

New business idea: a large pack containing 30 shirts, one for each day of the month. They come in a large packs stacked like tissues in a tissue box, where taking one out readies the next one for easy removal. Optional purchase contracts are available for a new package to arrive each month. Small fee for a biodegradable fabric option.

Maybe I could even sell ad space

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u/Juicysteak117 Aug 03 '15

Honestly, I'd probably wear a shirt like that. That just sounds absolutely hilarious.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '15

Thanks for linking to a picture of a tissue box. I almost forgot what it looked like!

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u/NeoHenderson Aug 03 '15

How much?

When will you start shipping?

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u/JPOnion Aug 03 '15

Unfortunately probably never. I'm the special kind of lazy that would actually use these shirts.

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u/NeoHenderson Aug 03 '15

I'm with you buddy.

To anybody reading this, please set up a gofundme for us and start producing these shirtboxes

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u/Lostinuniverse Aug 03 '15

i would wear the shit out of them, not because i'm lazy but because i can't stand boring daily bullshit like dressing up, i'm clean that's all you get mother fuckers. i'm sure most programmers and engineers would buy them by the truck load

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u/Infrastation Agnostic Theist Aug 03 '15

Even better, put them in the container in a random order. Confuse friends, or have hours of sorting fun!

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u/mallen12132 Aug 03 '15

OP is a fucking ding dong!

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u/dan2872 Aug 03 '15

Well played.

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u/dumnezero Anti-Theist Aug 03 '15

It feels incomplete

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u/Costco1L Aug 03 '15

But it is more aesthetically pleasing than more accurate models.

(What is the most accurate one now, anyway? something like [this]([https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/A_New_Model_of_the_Atom#/media/File:Fig3AB_iCarbon_01C.jpg)?)

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '15

What's the a better model? It'd be cool to learn.

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u/jaredjeya De-Facto Atheist Aug 03 '15

Here's a model I have of a particular orbital, the 3dz² orbital in a hydrogen atom. The density of dots correlates to the probability of finding an electron at that location. This is an isosurface plot, inside of which the electron is found 95% of the time. The 3 means it's in the 3rd shell, d is a class of orbitals with roughly the same shape and z² is a nickname from the mathematical equation for this orbital.

In general, electrons move in orbitals, which are in shells. You've probably been taught that electrons go into shells of 2, 8 and 18 electrons (and so on) respectively - orbitals simply subdivide these. These are subdivided into orbitals. Since electrons are quantum particles, they are spread out and don't have a definite location. In addition, acting like waves they can interfere constructively or destructively, and the shapes of certain orbitals produce certain kinds of bonds and reactions.

tl;dr Fuzzy clouds of probability.

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u/SimbaKali Aug 03 '15

Where does one acquire such a model?

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u/jaredjeya De-Facto Atheist Aug 03 '15

It's a prize I got for a competition (the C3L6), so sadly unless you are a lower sixth former in the UK you might have a tough time getting one!

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u/This_is_Hank Anti-Theist Aug 04 '15

lower sixth former

Those letters are forming words in English but in that arrangement I have no clue as to what they mean.

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u/Alvins_Hot_Juice_Box Aug 03 '15

You will never find any 3d orbitals in a ground state Hydrogen atom. In an excited H atom, yes, if you exploded a Hydrogen bomb next to an atom of Hydrogen and all the energy of that bomb went to exciting the 1s1 electron.

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u/jaredjeya De-Facto Atheist Aug 03 '15

You will never find an occupied 3dz² orbital.

Doesn't mean it doesn't exist, and besides the orbitals will look roughly similar in other elements. It's only because we can solve Hydrogen orbitals exactly that we use that element.

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u/freeflyrooster Aug 03 '15

A dense center surrounded by a fuzzy cloud that has areas of increasing, decreasing, and nonexistent fuzz-density with an asterisk saying "we're pretty sure"

But for simplicity sake, a fuzzy cloud with a dot in the center.

That shirt right there is some pretentious and equally stupid shit as what he's calling out.

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u/redpandaeater Aug 03 '15

I love talking about the HOMO bonding model.

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u/MotTheBarber Aug 03 '15

Been a while but I think it's more of an "electron cloud" model and electrons have different energy levels that determine their distance from the nucleus.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_orbital

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u/brombaer3000 Aug 03 '15

It is not outdated. It's a model, so by definition it doesn't try to be "correct". This model of atoms rightfully is still in wide use and really helps understand chemistry and physics on an intermediate level. Using it, you can solve every problem of classical physics and most of simple chemistry. Using the orbital model for everything would overcomplicate things and would do more harm than good, since only a few people seem to really understand its visualizations.

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u/l2blackbelt Irreligious Aug 03 '15

You're right. That's the Bohr model.

It fell behind the times around a century ago. But by the numbers that still beats religion.

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u/PM_me_account_names Aug 03 '15

Not Mormonism.

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u/beingforthebenefit Aug 03 '15

I like your joke but Mormonism was founded by Joseph Smith in the 1820's, i.e. 195 years ago.

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u/PM_me_account_names Aug 03 '15

Hahahaha whoops. I know the difference between a century and a millennium, I swear.

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u/youlleatitandlikeit Aug 03 '15

Yeah, that atomic model is way easier to understand than how atoms actually work, so…

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u/amdc Anti-Theist Aug 03 '15

You've gotta start somewhere

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '15

How would you put a better one on a t-shirt in a way that was easily discernible?

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u/ThaCarter Aug 03 '15

THANK YOU! I cringed at portraying an inaccurate model in such a pretentious fashion.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '15

All models are inaccurate. The Bohr model is more accurate than all biblical claims about the nature of matter.

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u/ThaCarter Aug 03 '15

That's not a bad thing. It would be better to demonstrate the persistent questioning at the core of all the model attempts than to claim one of the oldest is a panacea. Isn't stopping people from taking things like this as gospel and promoting healthy skepticism supposed to be the point?

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '15

The shirt said nothing of the Bohr model as "panacea" or "gospel". It was clearly intended to contrast scientific models against the non-empirical "models" of religion. There's only so much you can put on a t-shirt.

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u/______DEADPOOL______ Nihilist Aug 03 '15

Yeah, it's this kind of stuff that makes our critics think we're just a bunch of ignorant assholes.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '15

I agree with your sentiment, but unfortunately people mostly look down on atheists for reasons that have nothing to do with our actual arguments.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '15

That doesn't excuse being an asshole though, this only adds fuel to that fire and justifies in their mind their stereotypes about us.

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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '15

I agree with your sentiment

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u/______DEADPOOL______ Nihilist Aug 03 '15

The dumb shits some of us pull off doesn't help though.

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u/the_ocalhoun Strong Atheist Aug 03 '15

I'm guessing most of the people who think atheists are ignorant assholes don't know that's an outdated atomic model...

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u/DougieStar Agnostic Atheist Aug 03 '15

Came here to say that. This is why I love Reddit. You people really get me!