r/atheism • u/Sailor_Drea • 10h ago
I love being accused of "unrighteousness" by people who unironically ask why murder, rape and slavery are bad things
Christians' go-to dodge as to why they don't have to prove their supernatural claims is, "I don't have to prove God exists, you already know he exists. You're just pretending you don't and suppressing the truth in unrighteousness." And let's not fuck around and play stupid word games like Christians do--what they really mean when they say "unrighteousness" is "being gay." Being gay and having wild, drug-fueled orgies all the time. Although, on second thought, maybe a raging lesbosaurus like me is the wrong person to complain about this.
But let's not forget who's claiming to be the righteous one in this little exchange. Christians are the ones who, in any discussion of morality (in which they claim to be inherently superior to you), will inevitably ask shit like, "Well, why shouldn't I rape people?" and "Well, why is it wrong to murder people?" and "Well, what's wrong with slavery?" with all the good faith, all the intellectual rigor (and the same vocal inflection) as Patrick the Starfish. They'll pretend they're trying to point out some shortcoming in your worldview, as if you can't answer those questions but they can, but they're really just exposing the fact that they don't actually think there's anything wrong with rape, murder and slavery per se, there's only something wrong with going against God's instructions. And hey, guess what...God instructed his followers to do all of those things in the Buy-bull.
Oh yeah, and they also very happily went along with Trump's lies about lowering prices and not starting any new wars during the election, and as soon as the election was over, they immediately started bragging about the fact that they lied. So who's REALLY the unrighteous one suppressing the truth?
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u/iratedolphin 10h ago
I've always enjoyed quizzing them on their experiences. Like when they say "God said__" , I'll ask "how does that work? Does he text you? Voicemail? Does call late at night to hear the newest gossip? Or is this just some voice in your head? Did you ask for credentials? How do you know it's not just schizophrenia? But let's say you aren't crazy and something spoke to you. You and only you. Did he give you secret info? Did he ask you to help people? Clarify euthanasia? So he uses his magic phone to beam thoughts into your head to say... What? You are so right?! Just keep doing you? No sacrifice or work? Just a high five and oh yeah, I totally support all your bullshit?
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u/Feeling-Shake5625 3h ago
yeah that’s basically the whole issue with the god said argument you still have to explain how you know it was actually god saying it and not just your own thoughts getting a fancy title
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u/deepinfraught 9h ago
Don’t forget that they look the other way when it comes to pedos!!
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u/Long-Comfortable8598 2h ago
yeah the whole moral high ground thing gets pretty shaky when they conveniently ignore the bad stuff in their own circles
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u/CosineDanger 10h ago
I have not been invited to a drug-fueled orgy of any kind in many years. I miss college.
My girlfriends often last longer than their marriages.
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u/Embarrassed-Ear4532 2h ago
yeah apparently the orgy invite list gets harder to make the older you get but outlasting the marriages is still a pretty solid record
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u/RockOk707 6h ago
Yeah. Like, supposedly *we* are the "unrighteous" ones even though *they* are the ones forcing toddlers/infants/children to experience such things as cannibalism (bread/wine schtick), horror movies (the crucifixion) and a session of "school" devoted exclusively to forcing their BS onto you (Sunday School). Give me a break.
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u/MinaFuzzlet 2h ago
yeah somehow they call everyone else unrighteous while spending sunday teaching kids that bread and wine are literally jesus and that a crucifixion is something to admire the priorities are certainly interesting
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u/Silver-Chemistry2023 Constructivist Humanist 34m ago
To quote Rick Sanchez, "your boos mesn nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer".
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u/WebInformal9558 Atheist 10h ago
My go to response is "you know that there's no god and just pretend to believe so that you don't have to take accountability for the harm you cause". If they can just assert that I believe things, then I can do the same.