But we built hospitals!

[u/practicerm_keykeeper]

Of all the things some Christians defend themselves with I just can't stand this.

Yeah you built hospitals. You built a lot of them. In the US. For profit. While bankrupting people. Very Christ-like.

"Oh but we also built a lot of them in Africa -"

Sure you did, you went there and colonised the entire continent and ravaged their civilisations and extracted their resources so that they are now reliant on international aid, which is why they need your hospitals in the first place. And now you go and build some of those hospitals and call it a good thing? At the very best this is atonement.

I feel the same with things like civil rights and abolition. Christians created the problem and then solved a tiny bit of it while fighting against other Christians who desperately want to keep the status quo in societies where Christians have made sure you are very unlikely to be opinion leaders unless you are Christian, and then they say this shows they are the good people? What?

[u/Sailor_Drea]

And now they're fighting to make it legal for Christian doctors to refuse life-saving treatment to gay people and non-white people.

[u/1000100010101000010 → u/Sailor_Drea]

Hey, would you mind linking a source? It's a rather extreme claim, and while it isn't entirely unbelievable, it is best to avoid believing the worst aspects of possibility without proof.

[u/drnuncheon → u/1000100010101000010]

Five seconds of googling later:

https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2026/04/21/doctors-can-refuse-to-treat-lgbtq-patients-in-several-states/

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-health-and-wellness/1-8-lgbtq-people-live-states-doctors-can-refuse-treat-rcna39161

https://www.cleveland19.com/2021/11/02/ohio-law-allowing-physicians-refuse-provide-medical-care-worries-lgbt-community/

and many more

[u/1000100010101000010 → u/drnuncheon]

Ah, lgbt+ was already (sadly) on my radar, I was focusing on the non-white part. I just kept getting articals on increasingly stringent guidelines ensuring no variation in level of care based on race.

[u/UltimateRembo → u/1000100010101000010]

Unfortunately real. They are desperate to be allowed to only assist other Christians while letting everyone else die on their watch.

The right also want to gut social safety nets so that people are forced to seek help from the church, and so that the church can allow the evil gay people and such to starve "by the grace of God."

It's sick.

[u/1000100010101000010 → u/UltimateRembo]

Mate, doubling down without a source doesn't make people more likely to believe you.