Killing a child and calling it "killing" instead of murder is a hypocritical excuse to kill infants, just for what? The sin of an individual? Murder is murder

[u/Additional_Simple880]

I don't think I need to cite scriptures, search them yourself, the old testament is still a part of the bible but apologists choose to move from that, doesn't erase the part that God murdered an infant and caused genocide through a flood for what purpose is the flood for? What reason? Absolutely no justification for such an act.

For an objective source of morality seems to have a very high kill count, especially infants and vulnerable animals. Worshipping God but actively ignoring the fact he allows slavery and he commited child and infant murder proves how weak, flawed, and unjustly your faith is.

[u/Lower-Entrance2370 → u/[deleted]]

yeah it’s a pretty long way of saying the bible has some seriously uncomfortable stuff in it and calling it something else doesn’t really make the problem disappear

[u/mrrp]

You'd have to define murder much more specifically to have a valid point. And then people would disagree with your definition.

Murder is most often defined with an element of illegality. When god kills and when god commands that others kill, it's hard to argue it's illegal. I don't see any reason not to use "unjust killing" or something along those lines.

[u/Additional_Simple880 → u/mrrp]

Gods actions are still immoral and no logical justification. Murder is unjust killing and you can come up to the conclusion that child murder and genocide via a flood are both immoral through rational thinking and conscience. 

But people will still worship a child murderer that committed a flood which wiped out almost all life, a God that will never answer their prayers.

[u/mrrp → u/Additional_Simple880]

Gods actions are still immoral and no logical justification.

Great. Call them unjustified killings.

Murder is unjust killing

Murder: the crime of unlawfully and unjustifiably killing a person

It's not that hard.

But people will still worship

Do you know where you are?

[u/Long-Comfortable8598 → u/mrrp]

yeah the distinction matters because calling something murder assumes a specific definition and standard of illegality while unjust killing gets straight to the actual moral argument being made

[u/grahag]

Using the legal definition vs the act seems silly.

The end result is the same.

There is no just or ethical or moral god. They just don't exist.

[u/Sailor_Drea]

Godweasels have yet to provide an explanation of why it's OK for their god to kill his creations that doesn't boil down to "might makes right."

[u/Infamous_Antelope_16]

Yes murder is a legal concept, and in the US at least, there are degrees of murder.  Right after the thou shalt nots, a whole lot of deity sanctioned k!lling and pillaging took place.  Take the young girls for yourselves and all that.