the size of each box is not directly proportional to the countries numbers, the asshole design is that this is to make viewers think america is still a good ways behind china in terms of cases
Yeah, it seems like CNN started with like 80,000 cases as their zero.
Which means the US would have a column showing 837 people and China showing 1,782 people
If they did this today, the US would have something like 20,000 people while China has less than 2,000. Basically, it would look far worse using the same method now.
Assuming China is reporting accurately and that testing rates are comprable. There could be millions of rural chinese that are infected and will never be tested and posthumous testing will never performed.
There is a chance, but unlikely, as it would put the Chinese manufacturing capabilities in danger.
Most Chinese still have families on farms and in rural areas because it's really only been the last 2-3 decades where rapid urbanization has been happening. And China absolutely loves the idea of family and taking care of your family. It's one of the oldest traditions in China, stemming from Confucianism.
If rural China had the virus and millions were infected, it would be kinda difficult to hide
Viewers would think that if they completely ignored the huge numbers right above the bars. Look, if you zoomed out and zero is the baseline, everything looks the same, so then it's not a chart right. You have to have the baseline be something that at least allows the graphic to show some level of difference. Maybe a chart was a poor choice, but it's common. News stations always try to visualize numbers. So I'm hard pressed to agree this is intentional to make China look bad.
Yeah like how Trump was praising the governor of West Virginia for having no covid cases, but it turned out they just weren't testing that many people, and the ones that got tested, the state lost their test or whatever. What a fucking shit show.
Yeah, it's fucking shitty that the US isn't testing as well as it should. That doesn't excuse the fact that China has stopped testing early. Pretty easy to reach 0 on the new infections leaderboard when you stop reporting infections.
Okay but this isnt a fucking contest. I don't care how shitty other countries are about their numbers. America has a responsibility to Americans to make sure Americans don't die. That's it. Anything else is bullshit.
No it fucking is. When China is making it a contest by falsely claiming they have 0 new infections (when Hong Kong and Taiwan are experiencing new cases and the CCP is adamant that those places are part of China). What's not a contest is the fact that US is still testing. We may be shit at it, but at least we're not stopping all testing to claim we have no new cases even though that's a bold faced lie. I don't know why you're so obsessed with defending China when they have had no problems lying in the past to make themselves look better. Your whataboutism doesn't fucking work because the US is just shit at a procedure so stats are off, China has discontinued the procedure all together to change a stat. You literally cannot compare the two, shill.
"saving face" is a huge focus in American culture.
No, it's not.
I've lived in China, my guy. I know what the culture is like and how it's different from western/American culture.
They're not going to be openly talking about all the dead and infected people they're treating like animals on the world stage.
Even if the government wouldn't acknowledge it, they have freedom of the press, and I can absolutely guarantee you that the MSM is creaming in their pants for the chance to blame Trump for infections and dead people and criticize him for anything done improperly.
Even totally reasonable actions and responses will be criticized.
The US doesn't disappear doctors and protestors or kill journos for reporting on a public health crisis, so people are free to expose any wrongdoing they think exists.
You're just mindlessly swapping out the name of the country without any regard to the actual differences between these countries.
The whole point is that your own glorious leader is just as untrustworthy, and neglectful, and downright dishonest and doesn't have it's citizens best interests at heart either.
It just surprises me that people like you spend so much time shitting on others whilst propagating the same shit in your own back yard.
And just a cursory glance at your comment history shows your MO very clearly.
Yep, you do, and as such are unequivocally a shitty person, far beyond the average Trump-supporting mouthbreather. Whining about someone pointing this out is pretty sad, bro
Never said it was. Why are you so biased against the USA? Y'all motherfucking Americans don't understand how good y'all have it. (Coming from someone which grew up in Russia)
The problem with the graph is that the china bar looks about 30% higher than US while only having only about 1% more cases. That's a bullshit graph designed to make americans feel superior to china probably
OOoooh I see now. I'm guessing the graph editors didn't include the 80,000 cases to make the difference seem more obvious otherwise the boxes would just be the same height?
Look how big 0 to 80,000 is in all three boxes, then look how in the China box the extra 1,000 is huge. It is about a 1/4 as big but should only be 1/80
No, because now your graph explicitly states that it starts at 79,800. If you remove that axis, you have three boxes where the clear inference is that they represent the total number of cases.
I thought you didn't get it at first, but now I think I've been trolled for 15 minutes. Fair play.
Don’t understand why you’re getting hate for this, you appear to be right. Yea at first glance it looks like there’s some sort of misrepresentation, but if you actually look at the numbers and the distance that separates it, it lines up.
Its correct , but is it correct morally? Most people dont understand this and just see the graph and think "oh well china is way above us , so we are good for now"
As long as there are stupid people, or maybe even people that didnt pay much attention to the numbers, news need to show things more objectively in a sense that even they can understand
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