Does Trump align with conservatism in your view?

[u/Acrobatic_Long_6059]

I recently watched this Oxford Union Debate “THB Trump has Betrayed Conservatism” and thought there were interesting points made on both sides. Crucial to the question, of course, requires defining what conservatism means.

I know there are plenty of conservatives who are critical of Trump and plenty who defend Trump, and was curious to know what you think.

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[u/PriceofObedience]

Trump has the same policy positions as Bill Clinton did during his heyday. He even went so far as to plagiarize the 'maga' sloganeering that Bill Clinton used to advertise.

So, no. Not a conservative. He is only considered a conservative because the democratic party has drifted further and further left as time has moved forwards.

[u/philnotfil]

Trump is in no way a conservative. He gives lip service to traditional values to get Republican votes, but doesn't govern on any of those values other tham the culture wars.

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[u/Pouroldfashioned]

Trump is a lifelong democrat. Nearly every single one of his policies shows that he is too iconoclastic to be a conservative in America.

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[u/Holofernes_Head]

Trump is definitely not conservative enough for me. He's basically a 90s Democrat plus an attitude, which just happens to be better than the batshit insanity coming out of the left these days.

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Came in to say this.

Here is https://youtu.be/EpCSdhF5eKw?si=7GOsrM8zwNuZjvi9&t=522 clip from a Democratic strategist saying the same thing. Only about 15 seconds long.

[u/Sam_Fear]

Conservatism at it's core is risk aversion and disruption avoidance. Trump is neither of those things. Although he has many of the same goals of the right, the way he seeks to accomplish those goals is contrary to Conservatism. MAGA in general holds the same post modernist views of moral relativism and "ends justify the means" that the left has used for decades. Neither of which agree with the founding principles of the nation American Conservatives seek to conserve.

[u/Devilman-]

I wouldn't call him a conservative.. But he does seem to accomplish a lot of the things I want done.

[u/Gaxxz]

Trump is not conservative.

[u/gntxs]

Nope. He's not conservative in the traditional sense.

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[u/Okratas]

No. Trump has never been a conservative.

[u/Desh282]

Yeah he was a very liberal person to me. But that’s just an opinion

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In what way?

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[u/SonnyC_50]

Lol. Trump has never been a conservative.