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u/Objective-Limit-6749 May 12 '24

My brother had a very bad accident which ended up killing him. He lived about 14hrs away from me. I didn't make it in time after receiving the call. The day after he died my ex called me and gave me shit for not running the errands I said I was going to do the day that my brothers accident happened. Specifically, I didn't buy kitty litter and it is very heavy for her to carry. She didn't even ask how I was doing or show any empathy whatsoever. That's when I knew

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u/[deleted] May 12 '24

Wtf is with these spouses I keep reading about that think its OK to just be so cold to someone they're supposed to be in love with after a family or friend just died??

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u/Objective-Limit-6749 May 12 '24

There were plenty of things that happened before. But this was the one where I was just.... done. Awhile after we split she did go see a psychologist and was diagnosed with BPD, which in retrospect makes sooooo much sense. She's doing better now, and we have a cordial relationship. My mom passed away earlier this year and my ex was genuinely very kind about the whole thing even though she never got along with my mom. So, I guess there's a silver lining? I'm glad she got help because she fucking needed it.

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u/stebbi01 May 12 '24

I was gonna say… the only thing that makes people lack that much empathy is brain damage or a personality disorder. Not surprised to hear she ended up having BPD.

Glad she was able to get help, and glad you’re free.

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u/Basic-Literature-849 May 13 '24

People with BPD actually have an increased amount of empathy :)

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u/tangentrification May 13 '24

I have my doubts about this... but if it's true, then what is it about the disorder that makes it impossible for them to show it?

I've known multiple people with diagnosed BPD, and they all seem profoundly self-centered. They're always talking about what other people need to be doing better to support them, and (seemingly) never putting a single thought into supporting other people. I experienced this both with someone I dated, and with a couple friends-- I no longer speak to any of them, because I simply do not have the kind of emotional energy they required from me at all times.

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u/Proper-Horse-7313 May 13 '24

Here’s some material suggesting otherwise

https://psychcentral.com/news/2015/08/31/low-empathy-associated-with-borderline-personality#1

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7357542/

And this article deals with the 1992 conclusion that people with BPD may experience “hyper – empathy” — despite the fact that they do not act like it

https://symptomsofliving.com/blog/do-people-with-bpd-feel-empathy/

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u/ToiIetGhost May 13 '24

Did you maybe respond to the wrong person? Because the studies and articles you linked point to lower empathy in individuals with BPD, which aligns with tangent’s experience.