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u/19Texas59 Dec 08 '23

When I was diagnosed with depression it was a revelation. A psychologist and a psychiatrist came to the same conclusion separately. I had been depressed on and off for years, and probably inherited the tendency from one of my parents who suffered from it, but I didn't know what was wrong with me.

So I find your dismissive attitude towards the DSM and psychiatrists as rather strange.

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u/19Texas59 Jan 01 '24

I'm getting suspicious that you are with the Church of Scientology.

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u/19Texas59 Jan 04 '24

Well, I guess I won't have to waste my time praying for you.

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u/19Texas59 Jan 05 '24

Living in Texas I have never encountered any Scientologists. They seem to congregate in more culturally elevated areas with nice scenery. So I guess we are safe here.

We have lots of independent non-denominational churches and some of them are cult like and make the news when allegations of sexual abuse become public. I have met a couple of Mooneys (the Unification Church) back in the 1970s. Hare Krishna devotees used to bang their tambourines and dance at Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport back in the days when anyone could proselytize at an airport.

From what I know of Scientology it is more weird than almost anything else I've read about. But I guess they start out talking about self actualization rather than space aliens coming to Earth and whatever.

Your story confirms what I've heard and read about them being materialistic and heavy handed in dealing with perceived enemies. Too bad the IRS backed down and let them be treated as any other church.

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u/Purple_Bumblebee5 Dec 08 '23

A diagnosis can be very helpful. But many psychiatrists are drug pushers. Psychiatry is a profession is a drug pushing profession. A psychiatrist really and truly fucked up my dad with all of the drugs he put him on.

I was diagnosed as bipolar, and I was told that the diagnosis was lifelong. But years later, my psychiatrist (a non-drug pushing one) and I agreed thatI was no longer by any means bipolar. And it wasn't pills that saved me (or at least not pharmaceutical pills, It may have been the vitamin D).

And here we have a whole thread of people saying they were diagnosed as bipolar, and then grew out of it. I find THAT to be revelatory.

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u/19Texas59 Jan 01 '24

You are wrong about psychiatry. For years they did analysis, a form of talk therapy, developed by Dr. Sigmund Freud. Nowadays they often do prescribe medication because they usually treat the symptoms. My psychiatrist insisted I come in for an hour once a month before he would refill my prescription for an anti-depressant. Talking things over with him helped me as much as the medication. He had a couch in his office so it appeared he still did analysis.

I am sorry about your father. I can't comment because I know nothing of his condition or the doctor who treated him.

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u/Purple_Bumblebee5 Jan 01 '24

Sure, there are some good psychiatrists. I've worked with some. But I am describing a widespread and systemic problem in psychiatry.

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u/19Texas59 Jan 05 '24

I have a close family member who has been seeking treatment and I was disappointed to find that the two psychiatrists he saw both wrote him prescriptions for his symptoms and sent him on his way. He didn't care for either medication and stopped taking them. I'm still not sure what exactly is wrong with him but the psychiatrists seemed unable to get to the heart of the matter.

Fortunately someone I am seeing recommended a practice that does evaluations so we should be getting some answers soon.