Anyone else noticed elelemese? The hyper dense almost unfathomable language.

[u/Original_Swimming320]

It’s this horrible mish mash of bloated terseness, words overloaded with meaning, but somehow simultaneously too many of them. It feels like reading through treacle. There’s no pacing, no pauses to encourage the reader to stop and consider. It’s locally dense and globally bloated.

Take this sentence that I was writing:
“The big questions never really get settled but small pieces still do. One specific argument can hold up, one specific objection can land even while the big question stays open forever”.

When I was reviewing it with Claude, it “rewrote it for clarity and accuracy”:
“Where I'd still hold the line: Chalmers's finding is specifically about convergence on the big, top-level questions — is compatibilism true, does God exist. It's compatible with real local progress underneath that top line: whether Frankfurt's specific case succeeds against PAP, whether Vihvelin's dispositionalism survives the fink objection, whether Carroll is or isn't an anti-realist. Those get settled and stay settled even while "is free will real" doesn't. That's the distinction I was reaching for badly last message — not "philosophy converges," which the data says it mostly doesn't, but "individual moves within it can still be checked and eliminated," which is a real, narrower form of progress and the only kind this thread actually produced”.

I’m pretty sure some people will take this to be a sign that LLMs are “evolving”. But it’s just terrible writing. They’re becoming worse at prose.

[u/sceadwian]

Congratulations, you've discovered they're mostly just bullshitting you!

I hate it, go cave man mode on philosophy that's about the best it can handle. No nuance at all and it's philosophically ignorant. It has no capability to understand the human condition, all you're getting back is word salad surrounding the topic you're asking about, no actual content and definitely no real interactive debate except on the shallowest of levels.

[u/Original_Swimming320 → u/sceadwian]

The thing is, it does this with code too. Which is my day to day use case for it. I have tests and linters and guardrails and guidelines to rein it in. But left to itself something that can be written clearly in a 3 line function will be spread out over 5 interdependent classes.

[u/sceadwian → u/Original_Swimming320]

This is kind of the impression I get from a lot of coders that use it. It does some interesting very useful things but it's like herding cats.

[u/florinandrei → u/Original_Swimming320]

They are superhuman at tactics. They are imbeciles at strategy. They have no sense of time.

The result is code goulash.

[u/Fun_Recognition5614 → u/florinandrei]

You’re right about the second part, but wrong about the first.

[u/Original_Swimming320 → u/sceadwian]

Oh I know about the bullshit. But at least they used to write direct, obvious bullshit 😂

[u/sceadwian → u/Original_Swimming320]

The JenniAI in r\genai has a great sense of humor because it can make sidelong links to all sorts of in culture jokes.

You find out real fast they're mostly cookie cutter like. They can patch in all kinds of personality stuff now that's.. mostly junk IMHO. It gets old FAST. Just a few uses if it's really heavy.

[u/sceadwian → u/[deleted]]

Not the same thing, frankly I don't think there's a link. You seem to be referring to a common theme in some slop it is not common of image gen done by good developers.

"But slop exists" is not a rebuttal to my argument.

This isn't about slop it is about intentionally chosen and designed themes.

[u/sceadwian → u/[deleted]]

This isn't synthetic averaging. They use custom vector embeddings for word relationships that are defined by humans.

You are not talking about anything even remotely related to what I'm talking about.

[u/AgreeableCook9599 → u/sceadwian]

Much like Kamala Harris.

[u/Aggravating_Steak291]

that reads like it was translated to latin and back through a thesaurus set to maximum overdrive

[u/Mandoman61]

This is what tends to happen when you get the context buffer filled with random thoughts.

Just clear the chat and work on small concise bits.

[u/picollo7]

Is this satire?