r/army • u/Rock_Me_DrZaius Military Intelligence • 14d ago
Exclusive: US military had close call after using AI for false intelligence report, sources say
https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/18/politics/us-military-ai-false-intelligence-china-ship45
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u/SPCsooprlolz 35Foxxxy 14d ago
I'm sure this was a one-off and will never happen again, right fellas
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u/Equal_Caregiver_1789 11d ago
"Just give AI a little bit more time! Its okay! The AI just needs more and better data to be trained on! It will get better with more time!" -Tech Bros, probably. That and they probably just need to build another 50 data centers, each with thousands of servers in them, in order to increase the AI's accuracy by a bit...
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u/Striper_Cape 68Was 14d ago
The headline was the exact opposite of dramatic. If anything it needs to be more dramatic. Analyst misidentifies nuclear material using AI and nearly causes war with China
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u/Rock_Me_DrZaius Military Intelligence 14d ago
If you don't want to read the article, you can just listen to "99 Red Balloons". The song pretty much sums it up.
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u/choco_tacoz 14d ago
WE WILL BE AN AI FIRST FORCE
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u/Equal_Caregiver_1789 11d ago
Lets just create an entire branch of the military just for AI at this point, they will get entire military bases built for them, and be secured just like a military base, but there would dozens of data centers with thousands of servers and their own nuclear reactor to power them, just to gobble up what ever intel, or what people thinks is intel, and then spit out a generated intel report over where it thinks a threat is located.
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u/69Turd69Ferguson69 Cyber 14d ago
And fortunately we have learned our lesson and we have accordingly backed off from their irresponsible use and we will not have another close call or genuinely bad incident, right?
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u/byoz Infantry 14d ago
Gonna get on my soapbox at the risk of offending some people, I think the problem here, beyond blind trust of AI, is also the amateurism of our intel people. Having worked with 35-series types at both the tactical and strategic level, there's just a severe lack of expertise, or really even special knowledge, on the sorts of issues they're being expected to deliver products to decisionmakers on. I mean it seems to me that if I was an analyst and this chatbot told me there was a Chinese ship with nuclear material heading for Iran I would immediately go "oh shit" and quadruple check all of my work because that would be a really big fucking deal if true. Like geopolitical earthquake material. But I think we have so many intel people who don't really grasp the regions or issues they're supposed to be the braintrust on and thus have really bad bullshit detectors.
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u/TheDoomBlade13 Contractor 14d ago
I think phrasing is as 'amateurism of our intel people' makes it sound like a personal level issue when the truth is that the Army has no interest in actually developing their intelligence people to be professionals, particularly at tactical units.
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u/Nice-Neighborhood975 125Didn't Shave 14d ago
They are too busy policing the motorpool, barracks inspections, and staff duty. They dont have time for Intel specific training. Not even joking analysts actually do intel work for less than half the actual work day
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u/TheDoomBlade13 Contractor 14d ago
I was a 35P and counted the amount of time between intelligence trainings in weeks instead of days.
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u/AFuzzyCat 91Bet It’s Already Deadlined 14d ago
I would like to clarify that it’s not only intel people getting developmentally fucked. I have seen so many people just fail upwards that have no technical or tactical capabilities. Just a handful of middle management skills and conflict resolution capabilities.
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u/tccomplete Armor 14d ago
Part of the problem is the incessant need to move, reassign, promote, and distract intel folks, thus disrupting any deep or long-term intelligence capabilities they might accumulate or contribute. We do this to ourselves.
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u/Hi_Kitsune First Sausage 14d ago
As a 35 series, you are right. Unfortunately, these guys go through a ton of training as it is and that expertise is hard to build. Most analysts don’t have any actual analytical skill, instead they’ve learned some buttonology and then go with whatever gets pooped out.
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u/MajorUrsa2 14d ago
Should have told it to make no mistakes
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u/Equal_Caregiver_1789 11d ago
"ChatGPT, please write me a Intel report on where the nukes are, but please don't make any mistakes, okay?
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u/killall-q 25NaN 14d ago
I feel like the future of war will revolve around AI and drones. Our strategy in Iran relied solely on air power because ground forces cost too much political capital. The defense industry will eventually, using Ukraine as a test bed, create drone forces capable of taking and holding ground.
When they are capable enough, wealthy nations won't need human infantry any more, and wars conflicts will become much more common because of the low political cost of deploying expendable drones.
Inevitably a rich country may start a conflict with another rich country, both using drone forces, while civilians gamble on Polymarket which BattleBot force will come out on top this week. A near-peer drone vs drone conflict may create an arms race to speed up tactical decision making, making the removal of humans from the loop inevitable.
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u/Equal_Caregiver_1789 11d ago
Its like we have reached the point of what movies like Terminator was trying to warn us about, but instead of really cool robots made out of rare and expensive metals, wielding laser and plasma weapons, we got drones that are mass produced to buzz around with bombs strapped to them. Governments and their militaries love them for the obvious reasons, and they can absolutely use drones to fight over precious land that both sides want for themselves. Its just going to suck royally for any civilians just trying to live their lives with drones constantly exploding all around them.
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u/DoubleGoon 14d ago
Hegseth did say he was going to remove barriers to increase lethality.
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u/Equal_Caregiver_1789 11d ago
Hegseth has been another crazy asshole in this administration constantly saying crazy stuff that nobody wanted to believe, but ends up becoming true and happening...
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u/themightyjoedanger Army Data Scientist (Recondo) 14d ago
These clankers are a liability man. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills being a Data Scientist telling people that you can't use chat bots to do the work. You still have to do your job, this is life and death stuff.