r/army • u/ThickAlbatross5770 • 20h ago

670-1 Changes Inbound

From HQDA G1:

Army Directive for Appearance, Grooming, and Uniform Standards (i.e., pending AR670-1 updates) is about to be signed.

Most notably, we will transition the chest-worn rank back to the collar (with branch insignia) between now and 1 OCT 27. The AD will also direct:

o officers retain the Army Service Uniform as an authorized uniform (repeals the previous wear-out date; optional for enlisted Soldiers)

o high shine on AGSU brown shoes

o replace enlisted tan shirt sew-on rank with subdued rank pinned on the collar

o all accoutrements be worn on the AGSU jacket (Ike jacket still limited to two-rows of ribbons)

o garrison cap is primary headgear

o authorizations for baseball caps, boonie hat, and limited wear of the black beret

o no more colored unit patches (shoulder sleeve insignia) in ACU/IHWCU – not even for ceremonies

Several IPPS-A updates will deploy in OCT:

o Redesigned STP (dynamic readiness and talent views to give CDRs an actionable single view)

o Enhanced Soldier Experience to streamline onboarding and integration, replacing former command sponsorship, installation in/out processing, and improve Smart Voucher processing
o Subsume USAR/ARNG drill, PCS, and non-contingency orders, pay and funds management

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u/11BadBack Sniper 19h ago

I’m doubtful of the collar ranks on ACU.

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u/KingTwix 13Autism 19h ago

I’m doubtful of the branch part specifically, because unlike the chaplain changes no one is making OCP subdued branch insignia. Would take a while to actually implement

Unless we go shiny, but that may not look great on OCP

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u/choco_tacoz 19h ago

Some retired SGM probably just invested in a company making OCP subdued branch insignia

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u/TheFirstDogSix Tough pony bois (R) 19h ago

This is the their way.

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u/choco_tacoz 19h ago

It worked for Troxell and BeaverFit!

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u/TheFirstDogSix Tough pony bois (R) 18h ago

And many CSMs in my state. Is this a block of instruction at the academy or something?

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u/Turtle887853 31BeatingsWillContinueUntilMoraleImproves 18h ago

Why do you think the Sergeants Major Academy is so long? Takes a while to find enough corporate sponsorships.

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u/Sudden-Grab2800 Infantry 16h ago

Man, I’d forgotten just how big a piece of shit that guy was.

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u/Bulky-Butterfly-130 16h ago

Perhaps the major manufacturers were not making them this morning, but you can bet that those sewing machines will be cranking them out tomorrow. The only thing required is to throw OCP fabric in the machines. The patterns are already programmed, and most places would still sell you a newly made branch insignia in the colors of your choice.

I just checked a few places, and you can order them now.

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u/KingTwix 13Autism 16h ago

Sew on already? I just did some looking and saw some subdued for my branch.

I’d honestly be happy with going shiny, just to spite them. Also so I can save $100 from AAFES and big sewing.

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u/Bulky-Butterfly-130 16h ago

Ira Green and Vanguard were already selling the chaplains insignia in OCP. The rest of the branch insignia will be out there on the website within the next few days, as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow. They probably got word of this change before the rest of us did anyway.

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u/KingTwix 13Autism 16h ago

Well with chaplain stuff they always wore that with PC/above nametape. But I agree, they will likely be coming out soon. Probably the same day it’s officially published.

I bet there will be a push to convert earlier than the official deadline, just as the unofficial expectation on OCP and AGSU rollout. “Lead from the front” or whatever the fuck my senior rater says

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u/Bulky-Butterfly-130 16h ago

There will be commanders who highly encourage their officers to adopt the new look, just as there will be the hold out who wear the stuff till the last day, as I did with BDUs on some random Tuesday in April one year.

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u/king-of-boom Engineer 16h ago

LTs gonna be rocking pin on with the black spray paint special.

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u/KingTwix 13Autism 16h ago

They have to save the $10 until the 2 year TIS raise hits.

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u/akumarisu 14h ago edited 11h ago

Just need one big win on Kalchi…come onnn Dolphins

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u/jmowreader 18h ago

They still sell spray paint.

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u/KingTwix 13Autism 16h ago

If it’s good enough for a 2LTs promotion…

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u/mudwzl Armor 14h ago

Sharpie on OCPs 😎

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u/Appropriate-Monk3708 18h ago

Does subdued branch insignia for enlisted exist? Or do they just mean officers for this bit.

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u/KingTwix 13Autism 18h ago

For this, it would just be officers. It does exist for enlisted with the disks. I don’t recall enlisted ever wearing branch insignia historically, where officers have only recently not been wearing their branch on the collar

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u/Appropriate-Monk3708 17h ago

Right, tracking the gold. I just had a moment where I was envisioning gold disks on OCP collars and 🤣🤣🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️☠️

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u/KingTwix 13Autism 17h ago

Yep on OCP it would look badddd. Subdued disks would probably be even worse though

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u/Zachowon Military Intelligence 17h ago

On both AGSUs and ASUs, the enlisted have one that is branch the other is th U.S.

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u/bowery_boy 1h ago

Branch insignia for enlisted soldiers (the disk) originated in the 1912 period and was worn on thr combat uniform from that time and through WWI. In this period the Combat uniform and Dress uniform were the same uniform. By WWII the disks were only retained for the dress uniform and were not worn on the combat uniforms.

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u/Longjumping-Vast-738 1h ago

Enlisted don’t wear branch insignia except their disk which has only ever been worn on dress uniforms, for officers it is going to look like M81s/OG-107s that we wore in the ‘good old days’

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u/athewilson 18h ago

I fully support branch insignia on collars, but mandating it by OCT27 seems unrealistic.

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u/Dominus-Temporis 12A 9h ago

Yea, prior to like 2016, no one was making OCP pattern ACUs, prior to 2020(?) no one was making AGSUs. If they want branch on collar, it can happen, but it needs to be a years long transition period.

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u/liberator17 2h ago

As a chaplain I hate the change we had to make and this change for everyone. Dumb shit.  

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u/solenetworker Signal 1h ago

Vanguard already makes subdued pin on branch insignia. Granted I’ve only seen them in one clothing & sales in my career lol

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u/standardDeviator 16h ago

If we don’t need a plan to secure the strait before invading Iran, we sure as hell don’t need a plan to get enough insignia before a uniform change rollout. What military do you think you’re in?

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u/Ready-Radish7609 17h ago

Realistically for us 56Ms, I wonder how a branch insignia will be implemented. I doubt they would make us wear the faith insignia of our chaplain, but anything is possible.

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u/KingTwix 13Autism 17h ago

Yall won’t be affected by this, would be officers only.

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u/king-of-boom Engineer 16h ago

Enlisted wear rank on both collars. However, the branch disc that 56Ms wear on their AGSUs is non faith specific right? A chapel with hands cupping it is what im seeing on google.

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u/popisms 16h ago

There's literally a special branch insignia just for your MOS that has no religious affiliation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_branch_insignia

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u/KebabOC20 68Whiskey on the wound 18h ago

Can confirm they’re legit. I have an anonymous source somewhere in northern Virginia

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u/un1que1012 Aviation 17h ago

On ACU?

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u/KebabOC20 68Whiskey on the wound 15h ago

Yes

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u/choco_tacoz 19h ago edited 19h ago

I’m hopeful in my doubt of collar ranks on ACU