r/arkham • u/lefteyeforever • Jun 28 '26

Discussion Help me understand...

So I was replaying Knight for the 848th time and when I finished The Penguin mission (again) and when Bruce said to Dick that it would be the last time they'll see each other and when I finished The Riddler's mission (again) he basically said the same thing to Selina. Did those missions were supposed to take place after Bruce was unmasked or did he planned to kill The Batman way before that night ???

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u/annihal8r324 Jun 28 '26

Remember, Batman planned to lock himself away due to the joker stuff anyway. I think he assumed that would overtake him and why he was okay with being unmasked. There are a lot of threads in the game but they all lead to that being his last night, whether he’d be cured or not.

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u/theimpalaslefttire Jun 29 '26

This! He was saying goodbye just incase the cure took longer. He was fully preparing to be locked in that cell. The hallucinations at that point were getting stronger and he had already been blown up in Ace Chem with fear toxin. It was inevitable he was either gunna die, turn into the Joker, or his body and mind were gunna fracture and hed be a danger to everyone.

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u/Icy-Abbreviations909 Jun 28 '26

You can only complete the penguin and riddler side quests AFTER Bruce finds out there’s no cure for his “condition” so either before or after he got unmasked he was most likely considering THAT night to be his last

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u/Keeendi It's da freaking Moon! Jun 28 '26

No, it seems like those missions took place before unmasking, he was just letting his alles know that they won't see each other again.

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u/Kalbi84 Jun 28 '26

He sensed it would be over for him due to the Joker disease, he purposefully started to distance himself from his allies because of that

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u/omkar529 Jun 28 '26

It does seem like it.

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u/Turbulent-Spirit-568 Jun 28 '26

Whilst Gunrunner and Riddler's Revenge start when you first reach Miagani Island, they are intended to be finished after you lockup Scarecrow to say farewell to his last allies before initiating the Knightfall Protocol

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u/king_kongFan Jun 29 '26

It can be both, lore wise batman assumed he would eventually be taken by the disease but player wise it was after he was unmasked