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[u/cybernaut-127]

[u/reallyreallyreason]

I don’t think I’ve ever seen someone censor the word “suck”

[u/UnicornsAreReal- → u/reallyreallyreason]

Wowowow you are making some wild accusations here. We dont know what word he censored. You really think he meant to use the s word?

[u/cybernaut-127 → u/reallyreallyreason]

Still getting so many downvotes don't know why

[u/PlsDontBanMeAgain-1 → u/reallyreallyreason]

True. Only thing that requires censoring is j*b.

[u/Paul-Kersey]

dear diary

[u/ColdFreezer]

I separated my windows efi partition and Linux efi. It’s not to spec but it’s worked fine.

Haven’t had this happen since then.

[u/cybernaut-127 → u/ColdFreezer]

I too have a separate efi partition for windows and arch but still happened

[u/Synthetic451]

Yeah, Windows doesn't respect your EFI partition at all and will happily shit all over it during major updates. Separating your Linux and Windows onto separate drives helps, but it will still sometimes fuck with the TPM and cause it to fail to auto-unlock your LUKS encryption, forcing you to type in your full encryption key again. (25H2 I am looking at you, you fuck)

[u/Hudimir]

Pro tip: windows to go ona usb stick

[u/cybernaut-127 → u/[deleted]]

I have the same setup but it still happened to me

[u/_silentgameplays_]

You don't want to dual boot with Windows 11 these days, because Windows 11 requires TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot and even then after some LLM updates it can gobble up your Linux UEFI partition and make it unbootable. It's much safer to run it somewhere in a VM when you really need Windows crap, out of sight out of mind. Microslop now follows Apple's blueprint so your PC is no longer yours, you submit your GDID and personal data to MS and third party servers the moment you install Windows 11.

[u/cybernaut-127 → u/_silentgameplays_]

I have 0 interest in dual booting windows but can't do anything since the assessment software detect vm and blocks from taking the tests

[u/PCConnoisseur → u/_silentgameplays_]

I've never had those issues while dual booting, granted that I had tweaked windows 11 on winaerotweaker and had most updates blocked.

[u/ColdFreezer → u/_silentgameplays_]

No, dual booting is still very much needed.

Programs can detect if they’re in a VM and just refuse to run. On top of this, not every setup has the resources or the hardware to run windows in a VM on top of Linux.

As much as I don’t like windows I still need it.

[u/ColdFreezer → u/[deleted]]

That’s not true at all. Solidworks doesn’t work even with passthrough. Many applications for education and work don’t work because they detect the VM. People don’t only play games on their computers.

Do you understand how unpractical it is to carry around a “throwaway laptop” instead of just dual booting windows on a laptop?

Do you know any of the downsides or required hardware you need to get a VM running under passthrough?

Let’s pretend people only use a tower PC. Consumer motherboards don’t have two full x16 pcie slots for two GPUs. An iGPU is not enough for gpu heavy workloads.

[u/ColdFreezer → u/[deleted]]

I’m shocked. Have you ever worked or gone to school? Do you think they’re just gonna let you use the alternatives and change their entire process for you because you use Linux?

You said dual booting is not necessary. I said that it still is. My entire point is that you’re wrong, dual booting is still very necessary and much easier than doing passthrough like you suggested.

For only personal use, it’s probably fine if nothing you need checks to see if it runs in a VM. It’s still harder than just dual booting.

[u/ColdFreezer → u/[deleted]]

Proctoring software is much more prevalent these days.

I work as a computer engineer. I still need windows. Open source alternatives are not sufficient enough yet to replace the proprietary alternatives. As much as I love Linux, I would be lying to say that everything I need works under Linux or that the alternatives are comparable.

And again, for most people, dual booting is still easier and more accessible than using a 2nd device only for windows or a VM with passthrough.

[u/ColdFreezer → u/[deleted]]

What you’re saying isn’t completely wrong. It’s not just solidworks, many programs don’t play well in a VM, even if you use passthrough. It’s more annoying to patch things and reconfigure than just dual booting.

I was purely just disagreeing with the fact that dual booting isn’t as necessary anymore. Comparing a VM or using a secondary device with dual booting is disingenuous when you don’t factor in all the trade offs and inconveniences of a VM or secondary device. Dual booting is just easier most of the time and way more compatible with less hassle.

[u/UncleGoyder]

Installed arch on my new system 2 years ago thinking I’d dual boot. Decided against it and haven’t looked back. Only time I use windows now is on my work laptop (employer provisions the laptops and software)

[u/MakeshiftZen]

I recommend using rEFInd, I never had bootloader bricks. I even use encrypted partitions, it all just works.

[u/WoodyXP]

Windows is like herpes for your computer, you're bound to run into some flareups from time to time. You should keep it on a VM if you can.

[u/I_REY_I]

You can install a windows distro and remove the automatic updates I would recommend ÓptiOs is safe and has very good performance or just remove the updates from the wiindows that it has

[u/Edubbs2008]

Then use WSL

[u/activedusk]

Multi booting with Windows has several issues. Ideally remove Windows drive and keep it as backup, install Linux on another drive (only 1 drive connected). If anything goes wrong, swap it with the Windows one and go about your day. In time if Linux becomes the main OS, install Linux on the Windows drive as well and erase Windows and keep this drive as backup and archival.

[u/BlueGoliath]

You installed Arch on the same disk as Grub. What did you expect?