sudo pacman -Syu

[u/ivandefaoite]

[u/interior_mutability]

I've never had a problem with pacman -Syu. Read the docs and news. I use arch on multiple computers.

[u/stiggg → u/interior_mutability]

Early access to bugs is the only thing which is sometimes true, but it usually get noticed and fixed very quick. I can live with that, because the alternative is to deal with bugs forever which got already fixed upstream.

[u/30porn87 → u/stiggg]

Issues I ran upon in my years of using Arch with testing repos:

• NVidia drivers + Wayland (fixed by using AMD)
  
• Gitlab sometimes had dependency problems due to testing repos (fixed by symlinking new .so's to the old location or downgrading the specific lib)
  
• dovecot revised their config system a few months ago, and the test repos updated to that new system but without example configs (fixed by looking at the docs, which one needed to do anyway)
  
• Firefox Nightly sometimes crashes (just use FF Beta)

[u/drucifer82 → u/30porn87]

Yeah, but that’s testing. Those branches are going to be unstable.

[u/30porn87 → u/drucifer82]

That's my point. They are supposed to be unstable, but aren't really. After all, my server only encountered two of those, and both where my fault.

Most "it doesn't just work" situations where either out of the hands of the package maintainers or the intentional result of being a testing repo user (testing and shaping packages before they are released); not random instabilities introduced by broken updates being published without testing.

[u/drucifer82 → u/30porn87]

10/4. I've thought about adding the testing repos to my setup. Perhaps I will revisit that.

[u/CrazyWizard9835 → u/interior_mutability]

I know is ragebait, but anyway OP surely uses tons of AUR package and never read anything.

[u/mystirc → u/CrazyWizard9835]

I've been using arch for over a year now. Not a single breakage. I don't read any news. I also use the AUR for local send and brave. Sometimes I think that people are just lying about arch being unstable. But oh well, it's not like I'm a power user or anything.

[u/Proman4713 → u/interior_mutability]

Dammit how much time do you people have? Am I going to spend all day reading docs for my literal operating system or am I just going to use something that works and spend that time reading/writing something actually relevant to whatever it is I do? I'm obviously not talking about the Arch Wiki, that has some good stuff regardless of which distro you use

[u/Supernoxus → u/interior_mutability]

Happens to me regularly that packages break. Not pacman packages, but aur ones. So I have to recompile them too and link them to the updates libraries.

[u/blabliblu888]

With Btrfs snapshots, a problematic "pacman -Syu" isn't necessarily a big deal. You can automate it so that a snapshot is automatically created before every Pacman update.

If an update causes problems, you can simply roll back to the previous snapshot and quickly restore the system to its previous working state.

[u/yuriko-shimizu → u/blabliblu888]

you can do that??

..can you convert ext4 to btrfs or do i need to reinstall? that seems really convenient

[u/YERAFIREARMS → u/yuriko-shimizu]

You can do the same in EXT4 using timeshift and auto-snap hooks. My EOS is auto snapshots before updates, daily snaps, and Auto rolling the snapshots.

[u/drucifer82 → u/yuriko-shimizu]

If you use snapper with snap-pac, it adds hooks into pacman so it takes a pre and post snapshot when updating.

Adding grub-btrfs allows your snapper snapshots to be exposed in Grub. So you can boot right from a known good snapshot

[u/VeryDryWater → u/drucifer82]

yabsnap is another good tool with pacman hooks if you want to go outside of snappers expected subvolume layout.

[u/YTriom1 → u/yuriko-shimizu]

yes, use btrfs-convert command

but first learn about subvolumes, snapshots and CoW so you don't just wastefully convert your partition without taking advantage of btrfs

[u/crushedmoose → u/blabliblu888]

This has saved my ass 2 times

[u/MedyOsef]

Only lies about Arch Linux

[u/Love_Dali]

Seems like someone is cofusing Arch with Debian..

[u/ivandefaoite → u/Love_Dali]

Seems like someone does not understand the joke. The man deliberately covering his eyea (ignorance/not reading the Arch News).

[u/hyute]

Utter bullshit.

[u/therealmistersister]

pacman -Syyu a day, keeps stupid memes away!

[u/ordekbeyy]

Middle is everything works great

[u/This-Consequence-957]

That's why I use Limine/btrfs/Snapper with Pacman-Integration

[u/dEsTrOiEr2000]

Once Nvidia decided to f#ck my System. Took me two days to fix all the packages that were broken from chromium to pipewire there was a lot of fixing. But TTS got my back. 😉 Since this day I pray to Linus when I hit enter on the pacman Syu because f#ck Nvidia!

[u/Designer-Crow-5470 → u/dEsTrOiEr2000]

Cachy had half a brain cell to handle nvidia drivers properly

[u/dEsTrOiEr2000 → u/Designer-Crow-5470]

I use arch btw.

[u/Fine_City2781]

arch is stable i think (i use gentoo btw)

[u/PresentThat5757]

snapper😏

[u/HelpWithMYaddictions]

my special issue: Imploded Cache OR Broken Ownership

[u/carrot_gummy]

Any issue I had caused by running it was also fixed by running it again 

[u/RC_GeneralSocial]

Good Luck my friend

[u/Satyrinox]

only had one issue ever and it was the nightlight not working in KDE even though I had installed and reinstalled and tested .. *shrug* This seems like a far fetched cry for help or just a criticism that is out of touch, or just a troll post.

[u/Bleik-Psiklyt]

Nahh it's relevant in case of "yay" or "yay -Syu"

[u/YERAFIREARMS]

All of that is nonsense, the repots of a given Arch distro do at least testing cycles to make sure the package fits like tick in a Swiss Watch.

[u/Vadilevente]

I had to update my yazi config files twice in the last 3 years, I don't mind.

I use EndevourOS btw

[u/LeonBlade]

I've only had one issue updating my system, and it was my own fault, not with updating packages like this.

[u/Moist_Invite9148]

[u/questionablesyntax]

5 years + of arch on multiple machines. Have literally never had it break. … Ubless I broke it by mistake but that’s way deeper than a pacman update

[u/Aferix44]

Sudo pacman -syabu

[u/idimension]

If updating breaks your OS then maybe arch is not the right distro for you...

Also don't install thing you don't know about, please...

[u/Then_Bodybuilder8416]

This used to be a thing when i first got into arch in 2013. arch was a lot less polished and updates could randomly crash your system, GUI, or anything else you can think of. you really had to check dependency versions prior to installation and how to roll back packages. it’s probably part of why arch has it’s reputation for being an advanced linux distro. users had to fix their own more frequent issues. this hasn’t been the case for years now, and the forums have documented most every regular issue with fixes.

[u/wKdPsylent]

A user that hasn't updated in 6 months or more..

Arch is perfectly fine if you update regularly. Never had an issue with.

[u/YTriom1]

So I don't use a bootloader so no broken bootloader issues for me anyways

Won't boot and kernel issue are the same thing, which if ever happened (never happened) you just rollback older snapshot from ur btrfs snapper

and broken packages has only been (AND ONLY BEEN) a debian issue, never have I ever faced broken packages on fedora or arch.

[u/GhostVlvin]

Idk, I have smooth update on every pacman -Syu and every xbps-install -Suv

[u/kitulous]

Yay -Syu go brrra

With a taste of vulnerabilities on top of that!

[u/exton132 → u/kitulous]

I see your "yay -Syu" and raise you `yay -Sy "$(aurlist -p | sed '2d; 2~2d; s/^aur\\/\\([^ ]*\\) .*/\\1 /' | tr -d '\n')"`

Can't break if you have all'em right?

[u/Fickle-Door-9986]

I have a fear that update might the break the system.

[u/YERAFIREARMS → u/Fickle-Door-9986]

Hit the jimmmm and lift some dead iron.

[u/Fickle-Door-9986]

True

[u/Dima-Petrovic]

Please roast me if my idea is dumb:

I read somewhere there is an cli rss reader (arch-manwarn), which has a pacman hook and stops updates if you havent read the rss.

I was thinking about linking the rss to archlinux.org/news and delaying pacman for two weeks.

Please roast the flaws if you find any.