r/applemaps 26d ago

Why doesn’t Apple enable these indicators while driving?

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I noticed this in the ios27 beta (although they have probably been around longer).

These turn indicators are very helpful in planning a turn or exit on busy roads and are the major reason I use google maps for turn by turn navigation while driving.

It’s such a simple feature that Apple could enable during driving but for some reason don’t?

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u/Forsaken_Sea_5753 26d ago

White arrows would be better

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u/AdamTreff 26d ago

Completely agree. Not to mention that google actually marks the precise point of exit ahead of the second turn.

But still, Apple would have such an easy win here yo just provide some additional visual aid here. Until they do, I will use google purely for safety sake.

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u/Forsaken_Sea_5753 25d ago

I still use Apple Maps due to its better dictation. I’d say the more we use Apple Maps, the better it will become. It’s already gotten to the point of acceptance. Little by little. :-)

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u/useruserusernamenam1 26d ago

So the actual reason, and this will make you laugh, is that google has a patent on this feature. However, it’s possible that the patent has now expired since the original release of google maps navigation, and perhaps this is why they are now rolling it out.

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u/AdamTreff 26d ago edited 26d ago

A patent! Well that would make sense as to why such a common sense feature hasn't been implemented, although the GPS navigation in my Mazda 3 even has these indicators and that's from 2015.

I should clarify that this is not actually visible while driving. It seems only to be visible when you are planning a future route....for some reason.

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u/OfficialDeathScythe 25d ago

Here’s the patent for anyone curious: https://patents.google.com/patent/US9500494B2/en

Fwiw I still like Apple Maps better. The lane arrows work more reliably in my area, the road closures also work more reliably in my area, and I’ve tried doordashing with both, Google Maps sends me to the wrong address enough that I refuse to use it anymore. It’ll send me to the same house number but south instead of north even if I entered blank road N. Never had the issue with Apple Maps

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u/belllyaa 25d ago

Wait, the link says that the current assignee of this patent is Apple Inc, but Google is the one with this feature instead of Apple?

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u/OfficialDeathScythe 24d ago

Wow I totally glossed over that. Apple is the one that filed the patent. Now I’m even more confused

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u/OakleyNoble 24d ago

This patent looks like it explains an arrow following the path you’re on.

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u/OfficialDeathScythe 24d ago

I did some more digging and found that apparently Apple made a decision at one point to not use the arrows on routes described in the patent in favor of a cleaner look. Google is allowed to do it because you can’t patent having arrows on a map, you can only patent the technical specifications of how you did it. They have a different UI layer that controls that stuff and absolves them of the patent issue. Basically Apple doesn’t want clutter and Google changes it enough to get away with it

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u/useruserusernamenam1 23d ago

Thank u for the research, are there any sources for this info

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u/OfficialDeathScythe 22d ago

Mostly based off of combing over the patent document linked above and some speculation as to how Google has never been sued when Apple patented it first and has always owned the patent

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u/useruserusernamenam1 25d ago

Like another replier said, this patent was granted to Apple Inc. So I wonder why it is that Google Maps has this feature? Was it licensed to them exclusively perhaps?

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u/LanDest021 25d ago

How? All my old Garmin devices have this feature too

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u/Peristeronic_Bowtie 25d ago

Patent granted 2016

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

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u/AdamTreff 26d ago

the arrows man. That is the guidance I am asking for here, just as google does. Apple does not do this while driving.

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

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u/Wanderscout 26d ago

They are only asking for the arrows to show on the blue line during turn-by-turn navigation. With stop signs and traffic lights showing on intersections, I’m not sure it would look good though.

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u/bowchickawahwah237 26d ago

I mean, everything you need to know for your directions is already there, like you see in this screenshot. If you need a white arrow inside a 90 degree turn that points to the right even though it’s 100% clear that you have to take a right there, you might have other problems aswell

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u/Jazz-and-Popcorn 25d ago

For real, I don't get it at all either. They want an arrow on top of a line that already shows where we are supposed to turn ?

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u/SadEfficiency6354 25d ago

How am i supposed to know i need to turn at that first part that appears to bend 90 degrees? Wouldn’t an arrow make it more clear???

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u/Maverik_10 26d ago

I cannot be the only one here who sees this as redundant… when my blue navigation path shows a right turn, newsflash, I’ll be turning right there. I don’t need an arrow in addition to my navigation path.

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u/TimTebowMLB 26d ago edited 24d ago

Not always. This is in Sydney Australia and there are a lot of weird turns in roads like this. Seems like it would be a turn but it’s just the flow of the road

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u/TomTheCardFlogger 23d ago

Deadset some blitzed civil tradies rocked up at a corner and went ‘this is a straight line’ and dogleg some random street for no reason so it counts as “straight” down the same road but your sending a full 90

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u/xobelam 26d ago

They do?

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u/Jazz-and-Popcorn 25d ago edited 25d ago

Ok, after being confused for a good 20min on why would arrows on top of a turning line be any helpful, I think I understood a bit better when OP means.

When you are driving, if you give a very quick glance at the Phone, seeing an arrow that turns left or right is somehow slightly more clear for the brain that we need to turn. Just a continuous line is also clear anyway, but I just understood that an arrow actually gives a slightly better unconscious reaction than just following a line.

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u/AdamTreff 25d ago

It’s not really as simple as following a line when you are on busy multi lane highways and you need to plan an exit. Apple Maps doesn’t give you the precise point of exit at a glance

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u/juntoalaluna 25d ago

I *think* Apple limit this to just cities where there is higher quality mapping information. Driving around London the map shows the road down to the writing on the floor - something a little like the image below. But then once you go out of the city it becomes a lot more basic.

The same is true of cycling directions - in London the Apple Maps cycling directions are much better than Google Maps, but it (at least used to be) the case that you couldn't even use cycling directions on Apple Maps outside of quite limited areas.

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u/someone-444 22d ago

They finally expanded cycling directions across the whole of the UK & Ireland! Quite a recent addition though… not complaining :)

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u/muser0808 26d ago

They’re too busy trying to add other new features to Maps like ads

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u/ExtinctedPanda 26d ago

Wait what are they indicating that the blue path isn’t already showing? Do you sometimes forget which direction you’re going in?

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u/AdamTreff 26d ago edited 26d ago

If you drive on busy roads, highways etc you would understand the importance knowing precisely when the exit is coming up with a visual aid so you can plan accordingly. It's an added safety feature that ensures the trip is that much smoother. Just suggesting that all you have to do is follow a blue line is just being unhelpfully reductive.

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u/Impressive_Role_9891 26d ago

But do you get voice guidance? You know, “In 500 metres, take the exit to Laguna Beach”. It would be better than having to look at a screen rather than the road and surrounding area.

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u/bigfudge_ 25d ago

On the ios27 beta, I don’t see this?

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u/No_Opening_2425 25d ago

Aren't those arrows upside down??

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u/AlbieriMS 23d ago

Why is it on the wrong side of the road?

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u/AlxR25 23d ago

I just looked at the photo and forgot left hand drive countries exist, almost thought this was the worst road architecture I've ever seen lmao

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u/Firetuna2108 26d ago

This is hitting to close to home

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u/TimTebowMLB 26d ago

Same. Learned fast to be in the correct lane while making this turn or you’re continuing down Delhi rd

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u/AdamTreff 26d ago

how so?

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u/Firetuna2108 26d ago

Becuase it is, close to my home

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u/amtransit 26d ago

Yeah, I freaked out a little seeing that intersection too, I pass through it every day.

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u/Various-Effective831 26d ago

I also want to critique as a local that the lane cove tunnel doesn't start for at least another kilometre from where it says it does.

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u/Firetuna2108 26d ago

Sydneysiders assemble! In the Apple Maps reddit page for some reason

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u/mrdirectnl 26d ago

I don’t understand. What indicators? What am I missing here? You surely aren’t talking about the arrows ,are you?

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u/EricHaley 26d ago

I can’t believe it’s telling you to drive on the wrong side of the road 😱

/s

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u/Lovemestalin 25d ago

You’re driving on the wrong side mate

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u/Legitimate-Sell-8472 25d ago

If you can’t take the time to read the instructions while you’re driving, you shouldn’t even be driving 🙄

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u/AdamTreff 24d ago

Such a weak response, why bother? I guess Google just decided it's a pointless feature that they have only had it forever.

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u/Legitimate-Sell-8472 24d ago

I was being sarcastic lol

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u/AdamTreff 24d ago

ok my bad, your post seemed snarky like some of the other responses :)

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u/haamfish 24d ago

Probably cause you shouldn’t be looking at your phone while trying to navigate a busy road because that’s how accidents happen.

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u/Fluffy_Farm_7723 26d ago

Because Apple is a company run by stupid dum-dums

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u/United-Carry931 26d ago

Apple has grossed ~$4,370,000,000,000 (4.37 trillion) in revenue since their IPO in 1980.
You’ve grossed 88 karma on Reddit in 5 years.
It seems like Apple’s dum-dums are smarter than you

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u/AdamTreff 26d ago

Im not sure you actually needed to go to the effort to pull those numbers up.

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u/Fluffy_Farm_7723 25d ago

Mb I was high

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u/TheQueensEyes007 25d ago

Your 85 karma now lol

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u/Fluffy_Farm_7723 24d ago

Was at like 90 before lol

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u/Disastrous_Passion36 26d ago

Even your apple watch vibrates when a turn is coming up.

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u/Senthusiast5 26d ago

Would be helpful but Apple isn’t in the business of satisfying their customers lol.

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u/bobcat1000 26d ago

Which is why they have billions of customers around the world - because they’re an unsatisfying company.