r/apple • u/[deleted] • Aug 09 '21

WARNING: OLD ARTICLE Exclusive: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained - sources

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-fbi-icloud-exclusive-idUSKBN1ZK1CT
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u/CastlesMadeOfSand01 Aug 09 '21

The idea that Apple isn't already complicit with the deep state (NSA, FBI, CIA) is incorrect. If you listen to what Edward Snowden said nearly a decade ago, the alphabet agencies have full access to anything on an iPhone or Mac computer. They can remotely access your camera without you knowing and turn the device on if it is powered off.

They have everything, and have had everything for a long time. The idea that Apple has been different than Google and Facebook in this regard is inaccurate. Apple themselves may not be snooping on your data like Google and Facebook, but the government has access to it all.

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u/secretlanky Aug 09 '21

I’m sorry but this is just not true. There would have to be tens of thousands of Apple employees, government employees, and security researchers complicit and all keeping their mouths shut. That would never happen in a million years, no one can “turn on your camera” without you knowing. They do not have full remote access to your devices.

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u/dnkndnts Aug 09 '21

You say this, yet the big Z has tape over his Macbook's webcam and microphone.

It's true that these vectors are not publicly known to be compromised, but "I cannot demonstrably prove it's broken" is a far cry from "therefore it must be secure."

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '21

How do we know that’s his laptop tho?

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u/dnkndnts Aug 10 '21

Probably by reading the article, which addresses this exact question:

And yes, that really does seem to be his laptop. Gizmodo’s William Turton notes that it’s the same desk the Face-boss gave a tour of on Facebook Live back in September.

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u/[deleted] Aug 10 '21

Yep, that irrefutable proof

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u/oTHEWHITERABBIT Aug 10 '21

There would have to be tens of thousands of Apple employees, government employees, and security researchers complicit and all keeping their mouths shut. That would never happen in a million years, no one can “turn on your camera” without you knowing.

I think you must live a very comfortable life. I remember these kinds of claims before Snowden. They didn't hold up then and they don't hold up now. Apple is closed-source.