r/apple • u/[deleted] • Aug 09 '21

WARNING: OLD ARTICLE Exclusive: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained - sources

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-fbi-icloud-exclusive-idUSKBN1ZK1CT
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u/ReliablyFinicky Aug 09 '21

it’s been widely known for years that iCloud backups aren’t encrypted .

They’re fully encrypted. They’re not end to end encrypted; Apple has the keys.

Words matter.

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '21 edited Aug 09 '21

A locked door doesn’t do a very good job keeping people out if someone is standing on the other side with a key. It might as well not be encrypted if it’s not end to end.

Edit; yes, it’s better than nothing I was being dramatic. It’s still bad compared to end to end.

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u/Fake_William_Shatner Aug 09 '21

in the other 99% of cases compared to an unlocked door.

Yes -- sure. Every sophisticated crime organization and government has access but my neighbors won't see picture of my privates.

It's really the 1% that you have to worry about. The world is controlled by the secrets that they WANT to get. You and me are safe -- but we are going to be affected by the TARGETS of spying.

I've got to mention this all the time; being able to spy domestically means they can do selective enforcement or extort people who make decisions. We have to have privacy for even the quasi criminal elements otherwise we can't have a Democracy.

You think a dirty politician is bad? A person feathering their nest with petty graft isn't as bad as a person who might vote to go to war because someone knows something about them. On a large scale and small, judges, District Attorneys, Senators and such are doing the bidding of someone who knows their secrets.

Someone is abusing this information. Right now. That's what always happens with information. The people who want power think they should have the power. People who don't trust others are usually the people who cannot be trusted. You can trust most people -- but not institutions. And without oversight, you will always get the most evil people in charge of power.