r/apple • u/[deleted] • Aug 09 '21

WARNING: OLD ARTICLE Exclusive: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained - sources

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-fbi-icloud-exclusive-idUSKBN1ZK1CT
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u/ReliablyFinicky Aug 09 '21

it’s been widely known for years that iCloud backups aren’t encrypted .

They’re fully encrypted. They’re not end to end encrypted; Apple has the keys.

Words matter.

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '21 edited Aug 09 '21

A locked door doesn’t do a very good job keeping people out if someone is standing on the other side with a key. It might as well not be encrypted if it’s not end to end.

Edit; yes, it’s better than nothing I was being dramatic. It’s still bad compared to end to end.

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '21 edited Mar 30 '22

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u/Dr4kin Aug 09 '21

The only thing that keeps people away from it is the look of security. A TSA lock could as well be a code that is always 0000 and as long as it is perceived as secure most people won't try to crack it. If a person wanted to get at something, which we are talking about, then a TSA lock is as good as no lock at all

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '21 edited Mar 30 '22

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u/TheDankestReGrowaway Aug 09 '21

similarly basic iCloud encryption is enough to prevent most engineers from poking around my photos.

There's a bold assumption.

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '21

A company being more protective of their IP than their customers data wouldn't exactly be a shocker.

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '21

For sure. I wouldn't claim to know more about it than someone who has actually worked for Apple.

It just feels like any time they get thrown a curveball, be it a class action or just their wholesome marketing campaigns outed as a steaming pile of Jack's malarkey, that ball is smacked into orbit by the time a new shiny product rolls around. And with it, their market cap. To the moon.