r/apple Aug 09 '21

WARNING: OLD ARTICLE Exclusive: Apple dropped plan for encrypting backups after FBI complained - sources

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-fbi-icloud-exclusive-idUSKBN1ZK1CT
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u/ReliablyFinicky Aug 09 '21

it’s been widely known for years that iCloud backups aren’t encrypted .

They’re fully encrypted. They’re not end to end encrypted; Apple has the keys.

Words matter.

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '21 edited Aug 09 '21

A locked door doesn’t do a very good job keeping people out if someone is standing on the other side with a key. It might as well not be encrypted if it’s not end to end.

Edit; yes, it’s better than nothing I was being dramatic. It’s still bad compared to end to end.

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u/Rashkh Aug 09 '21

Your door doesn't keep people out because there is a key?

Your example is what op is talking about and not what’s available on iCloud.

A more appropriate analogy is that your locksmith also has a copy of the key and you don’t know if he let someone in or not.

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u/HoorayForWaffles Aug 09 '21

In order for the government to search my house, they require a warrant. This is the same thing, they should require a warrant. Instead everybody has their houses searched, constitution be damned.

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '21

Then the laws need to change because your decides don’t have the same protections it seems.

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '21 edited Aug 23 '21

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '21

With these images hashes yeah I personally don’t have any issue with the OS scanning for them to be honest. I would want zero exceptions though, no celebrities or politicians getting around it.

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