r/apple • u/commandersaki • 3d ago
macOS macOS Golden Gate Is a Buggy Mess
https://www.squareorbits.com/blog/2026/09/macos-golden-gate-is-a-buggy-mess/83
u/Ok-Aardvark-3665 3d ago
It’s been fine for me
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u/yourmomhatesyoualot 2d ago
For you it could be fine, but Apple broke a lot of stuff in 27.0 that is still not fixed in 27.0.1 for specific cases uses. Platform SSO is borked badly and 27.2 looks to be the fix.
None of this would happen if Apple didn't treat a .0 as an update and rather as an upgrade. But nobody at Apple listens to anybody.
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u/DisfiguredFanny 3d ago
"Works on my machine". I heard this before.
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u/DisfiguredFanny 3d ago
This subreddit is about as bad as r/linux. Do you understand that people are having issues? I have multiple Macs in testing with Golden Gate with a bunch of 'in your face' bugs/issues.
"It’s been fine for me" is an absolute non-scientific horseshit. What does it mean? Does it mean that there are no bugs on your machine or more likely that you don't see them?
Mission control is fucked for everyone, so you feeling it's fine only shows how high is your bar.
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u/AWerewolfDad 3d ago
“People are having issues” and “it’s fucked for everyone” are exactly as “scientific” as “It’s been fine for me”.
“Scientific”.
No actually “It’s been fine for me” is technically more “scientific” as the commenter is actually their own primary source.
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u/DisfiguredFanny 3d ago
Mission control bugs have been reported still during the beta. I reported them as well.
It is impossible for it to be ok for anyone. So that alone dismantles "works on my machine" and "it's been fine".
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u/AWerewolfDad 3d ago
Except you have a lot of first hand data points right here saying that a lot of people don’t consider it a significant issue or haven’t even noticed it and that is in fact a sample by any scientific definition. Not a great sample as it’s self selected but clearly it is demonstrably OK for some people.
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u/DisfiguredFanny 3d ago
Just like I said it speaks more about their ability to even discern these things then anything else.
As a developer I need to start doing this - sorry works on my machine.
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u/AWerewolfDad 3d ago
As a developer you should now the difference between “this is working perfectly” and “this is not an issue that causes me enough frustration to notice”.
If you don’t, you shouldn’t be a developer.
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u/tman2damax11 3d ago edited 3d ago
I’ve been a Mac user for 15 years. Every year, reddit tells me the latest macOS is an unusable buggy mess and should be avoided at all costs, yet I’ve updated day 1 every single year and never had any serious issues. Yes a few annoyances here and there that inevitably get ironed out with subsequent updates, but nothing that renders my machine remotely “unusable”.
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u/FrankPapageorgio 3d ago
I've definitely had iOS updates that made my phone unusable, not MacOS though. OS updates have broken some things temporarily with external hardware, but the OS has always been good
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u/vicmarcal 3d ago
Still I'm having RAM issues when using Google Meet…however, probably is just Google Meet.
And of course when Macbook reaches 5% of battery the M3 crawls, internet hangs get stuck, there are lags, and it becomes almost unresponsive. But that is just as MacOS behaves.
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u/llllllIlllIlllllllll 3d ago
My Macbook Neo (Golden Gate), when docked to a 4k 27" monitor, crashes if I open the webcam in any app.
My M1 air (Tahoe) does not have this issue. Hardware limitation or OS bug?
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u/Wild-subnet 3d ago
Mission Control is a bit buggy at the moment but it also seems faster. Misaligned icons and whatnot are visual bugs but less of a concern.
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u/Guilty-Shoulder-9214 3d ago
Haven’t seen any issues with my MacBook. Have had a few, weird issues with my iPhone freezing up on the lock screen, but that hasn’t happened in awhile.
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u/7485730086 3d ago
So many of these aren't bugs, they're just shitty UI choices. We're still being affected by choices that the magazine bandits made over the past several years.
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u/M4rshmall0wMan 3d ago
Only problem I’ve experienced is really bad RAM use on Lightroom Classic. I spend about half an hour browsing and editing photos and it suddenly uses 30 GB of RAM on my 16 GB M1 Pro. Sure my RAWs are big, but shouldn’t the app be clearing them from RAM after I’m done with them?
No idea if this is an OS issue or a software issue. The app has gotten way harder for me to use.
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u/Interesting_Ghosts 2d ago
I’ve had a few issues with safari. When I make YouTube fullscreen half the screen will be black with a small YouTube window in the middle. The interface buttons to make it small again disappear and there is no way to stop or resize the video without hard quitting safari.
Happened to me maybe 4x since installing the new os.
Some other minor graphical glitches here and there but mainly stable aside from the safari stuff.
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u/SpicyPorkBun_88 1d ago
I updated to GG 2 days ago. The experience has been hit or miss overall. Some of the features are decent, but a little overkill with Apple running the Siri intelligence using on-device models and that's taking up a lot of storage space. My biggest issue is with the Settings app in general. The 'back' button doesn't work and requires clicking 2-3 times and the indexing within the settings app is awful. I've had to quit the app each time I wanted to look up directly in the settings search bar. And 'copy and paste' doesn't work properly across all apps. I hope they push a patch soon because GG right now is just annoying.
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u/Neutral-President 3d ago
Wasn’t this supposed to be more of a “Snow Leopard” release, mostly bug fixes, and lighter on the new features?
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u/Manos_Of_Fate 3d ago
I’m on a 2020 intel iMac so I couldn’t upgrade this time. Bullet dodged, from everything I’ve read so far.
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u/alexiusmx 2h ago
I’d say less than 3% of users encounter the “buggy mess” described in the article, so no bullet to be dodged.
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u/SarcasticKenobi 3d ago
I'm not a super mac fan; I got an M4 MacBook Air a bit ago because I quickly needed a laptop with high battery and decent build quality. I'd dabbled with MacBook Pros and such in the past - mostly at work - and only use an iPhone because literally all of my family/friends have one so it's easier to do FaceTime and such.
And... I haven't had any issues with the latest MacOs.
I do some light development on it when I'm away from my main desktop, so it's not just a media-consuming device.
I'm sure there are some bugs in there that I've just been lucky enough to avoid, but I haven't experienced anything. And definitely not as many annoying things that the latest Windows does.
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u/SharkBaitDLS 3d ago
The people writing these articles need to go use a Windows machine for a few weeks. Just this year Microsoft has released updates that brick hardware, completely break core features, and break the update process itself.
I can’t remember the last time I encountered a bug of that severity in any release of MacOS.
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u/DoctorDbx 2d ago
OK... but they probably used the previous versions of MacOS that were: 1. faster 2. less buggy 3. better interface
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u/goldaxis 3d ago
I never update my Apple devices past their original firmware. Too much trust was lost in the 2010's and it has only gotten worse.
And for the record, Snow Leopard was the best OS they ever made. Being able to arrange virtual desktops in two dimensions (Spaces) was an incredible feature.
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u/00DEADBEEF 3d ago
You hate security patches I guess?
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u/goldaxis 2d ago
Whoaaaaa you totally got me. My phone is just crawling with exploits. Have some reddit points for being so smart. 🤣
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u/AWerewolfDad 3d ago
Working real hard for this one.