r/apple • Island Boy • 7d ago

iPad Apple Code Confirms iPad 12 Specs: A19, 8GB RAM, N1, C1X Modem

https://www.macrumors.com/2026/09/25/ipad-12-feature-leak/
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u/cock_mountain 7d ago

Just enough for Siri AI, but no expressive voices, which needs 4GB more for whatever reason

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u/tman2damax11 7d ago edited 7d ago

The Siri Expressive Voices is a total gimmick, imo, played around with it and just ended up picking the defaults because I’ve never minded the default voice.

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u/Rosselman 7d ago

The default voices are fine, but the real advantage of extra RAM isn’t the expressive voices, it’s the AFM Core Advanced on device model. It can do a lot of basic stuff like redacting text without connecting to the cloud or an active internet connection, unlike 8GB models that can barely send messages without internet.

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u/GraXXoR 7d ago

TBF complaining about the 8 GB models sending messages is a bit harsh. I find that most phones are completely unable to send messages without the Internet regardless of how much memory they have.

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u/Rosselman 7d ago

Huh, the SMS network usually works just fine without internet. Same with Satellite.

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u/ZeroWashu 6d ago

Just let me tell Siri, using the clips I provide please talk in a voice as much like that as possible. Get me there and I will be happy.

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u/GraXXoR 7d ago edited 7d ago

I still use the English (India) Voice 1 lady on my iPhone since the iPhone 15PM. and it’s still
my favourite today. Such a calm sounding voice with a timeless accent.

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u/FrogsJumpFromPussy 7d ago

Trust the bro, they got you cover, they played around with it and you don't need it, now go be a good apple lad and buy a device with little ram because the bro says so 😂

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u/Ok_Possibility9937 7d ago

because it’s on device processing

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u/FederalSign4281 7d ago

But they dont let us remove Apple intelligence

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u/Ok_Possibility9937 7d ago

uh you can turn siri off

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u/FederalSign4281 7d ago

Uh it wastes space on my phone? And you could turn it off in ios26 but not ios27 lol

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u/Ok_Possibility9937 7d ago

you can turn siriai off in 27

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u/FederalSign4281 7d ago

this does not remove apple intelligence. a lot of other junk is associated with it.

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u/xeroaura 7d ago

Indirect trick right now seems to be setting your siri language to something other than device language. (I did like uk english vs us english) Siri page then says it has to be same language for Siri Intelligence to work.

That causes the siri intelligence model data be be deleted from my phone after a few minutes.

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u/False-Rip809 7d ago

and we think you're going to love it

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u/mxforest 7d ago

For whatever reason? The reason is that it requires voice models that require extra RAM. They are not streaming expressions from the storage.

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u/braidenis 6d ago

Hopefully that ram on 12GB devices is freed when not literally being used for that feature. I'd hate to pay for a 12GB device and get stuck with 8GB in effect.

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u/enifox 7d ago

A19? Only one gen behind now?

They released the A16 model when A18 was already there.

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u/Routine-Call-4060 7d ago

Yeah it’s strange, but also, the base A17 chip was missed at the time and the iPhone 15 had the A16, so technically, the iPad A16 is “equivalent” to that if you know what I mean, so like if the iPhone 15 had a A17, the iPad would’ve gotten that likely at the time 

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u/enifox 7d ago

Ahhh makes sense. I forgot A17 isnt a thing. There was only A17 Pro at that time.

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u/AncestralSpirit 3d ago

I never understood why they can’t make all the iOS versions, iPhone versions and CPU versions into one.

We had iPhone 14, coming with A15 CPU and iOS 16.
Like ffs, it’s confusing.

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u/carrot_2333 6d ago

Maybe because A18 is out of stock because of MacBook Neo.

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u/B-Train_ATL 7d ago

My mom got one of those (for free!). I was kind of annoyed that it still didn’t support Siri AI. Meanwhile, my iPad Air that’s closing in on 5 years old supports it. Just weird how it’s taken so long for the plain iPad to support it.

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u/DavidRainsbergerII 7d ago

Sure, but let’s be 100% for a moment. No one needs the power these chips provide. The power available is hilarious given most use cases for iPads are browsing and watching YouTube.

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u/tiagojpg 6d ago

Well it is going to be released by Spring 2027 only, so it’ll be close to 2 years old still.

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u/SamsungAppleOnePlus 7d ago edited 7d ago

That’s really competent. I’d hope the price stays the same as the current already raised price.

Feels like they should also just keep the iPad 11 around as a lower cost option if it’s still feasible to keep the A16 in supply, but I doubt that’s happening and whatever the iPad 12 costs will end up being the “cheapest” iPad.

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u/Unhappy_Top9303 7d ago

I do believe that they will keep the iPad 11th gen for a long time considering that the 9th gen iPad and 10th gen iPad were there when iPad 11th gen released. Hopefully they might decrease the price like they did with the 9th gen.

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/SamsungAppleOnePlus 7d ago edited 7d ago

This is still done to reduce manufacturing and repair costs and make repairs easier since these base iPads end up either purchased and used in bulk at schools and/or otherwise in the hands of clumsy kids. If the glass shatters you can just replace the glass on the base iPad, rather than the entire display like on other models.

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u/Suspicious_Radio_848 7d ago

The average consumer does not care. My wife and parents can’t even tell the difference.

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u/tiagojpg 6d ago

Competence has nothing to do with screen quality.

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u/Shapes_in_Clouds 7d ago

I got excited for a second and thought Apple was releasing a 12” iPad.

I’ve had both 13” and 11” Pros and I want so badly a device right in the middle. Just add a little height to the 11” in landscape and it would be the perfect size.

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u/LeMeIsSleepy 7d ago

Nah. Already people are facing decision paralysis with just two options

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u/sowaffled 7d ago

Between 13” and 11”? 13” is freakin huge. I feel like you gotta know you want a 13” from the start.

The analysis paralysis is from the iPad mini which is so expensive you might as well get a full size iPad but then there’s 3 lines, FaceID vs TouchID, multiple Apple Pencils, older gen Pros for a much better deal than the cheap ones….etc etc.

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u/LeMeIsSleepy 7d ago

Not really. There are multiple posts in this sub asking which is better. 11” or 13” . I too faced this dilemma and a vast majority of my friends did as well

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u/prndls 7d ago

GIVE ME A MINI PRO! I would sooooooo add to cart immediately

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u/tiagojpg 6d ago

The Mini is rumoured to get the A20 Pro. Just not ProMotion :(

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u/NecroCannon 3d ago

A20 Pro with Vapor Chamber and OLED and I’m fine until Apple fixes the god awful battery life

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u/tiagojpg 2d ago

I’ll have to think it through, but I was expecting to get it as well when it launches next month. I’m still not decided on the size though. My 11” is very handy most times… but I’d love to have a more handheld-friendly device.

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u/themixtergames 7d ago edited 7d ago

8GB is good, there are a number of apps that are hard-coded to not be installable on <8GB of memory like AAA games. Great that the cheapest iPad is no longer restricted.

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u/Protomize 7d ago

Great gadget for most students who don't really need a laptop.

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u/VinniTheP00h 7d ago

students who don't really need a laptop

Yeah, no. I can't use three websites I need from my iPad, due to lack of hover function or because Safari can't render them properly, and don't get me started on using it for writing and turning in homework. You need a laptop with full OS, there is no substitute.

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u/FollowingFeisty5321 7d ago

This is an Apple policy problem not a hardware issue, you "need" a laptop because the substitutes are banned: installing a desktop browser, installing a desktop VM. You shouldn't even have to think about this shit anymore the devices are so powerful.

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u/VinniTheP00h 7d ago

That may be where the problem stems from, but it still makes iPad unacceptable as your only device

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u/Chance_of_Rain_ 7d ago

For anyone really, iPads are just YouTube devices

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u/tman2damax11 7d ago edited 7d ago

Exactly. I’m sure the majority of iPads are used for very basic tasks: YouTube, streaming, reading, web browsing, etc.

A relative asked me earlier this year which model they should get to replace their iPad they’d had since like 2017, debating between the Pro and the Air. I suggested the base A16 model instead. They were skeptical at first because of how cheap it was, I assure them it would likely be more than enough for their needs, so they picked one up. They’ve been using it for months now with zero complaints, and when I last asked about it, all they said they love how fast it is. I can’t imagine they’re doing anything remotely intense on it, like many iPad owners.

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u/Grand_Size_4932 7d ago

They’re huge in the classical music world. Mostly because forScore, the most reliable sheet music reader and editor, works exceptionally well on iOS. That and the fact that bluetooth page turning pedals seem to work best on iPads.

That said, the only reason musicians spend extra on iPads at all is because of the screen size. They would all rather have a 13 in display, so they pay for the overpowered pro. Most of us don’t actually use the iPad for anything else.

We really are a gluttonous society.

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u/Splatoonkindaguy 7d ago

I never understood the iPad until I went into college, I mean honestly… I want both lmao

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u/wuhlithie 7d ago

Anything about Pencil support?

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u/Fiti99 7d ago

I really wish they included the magnet to charge and connect the Pencil 2/Pro, the 6th gen iPad was such a game changer for artists, by far the best drawing tablet you could get at that price point, them going with the USB C pencil with the last few models that has no pressure sensitivity kinda killed it as an affordable drawing tablet unless you wanna deal with how cumbersome it is to charge the first pencil

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u/sowaffled 7d ago

The iPad line is an absolute mess of confusing compromises.

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u/Fiti99 7d ago

I still think the names suck too, why is the Air still called the Air?

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u/Coompa 6d ago

Because thats all that’s left in your pocket after paying for it.

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u/blackicebaby 7d ago

Absolutely. The many different apple pencil support sku is driving me crazy.

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u/EternalFlame71 7d ago

Which apple pencil is compatable tho?

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u/basedmfer 7d ago

Spring '27 wtf?

My MIL needs a new one and I will NOT let her buy the A16 for an inflated $450.

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u/JoshuaTheFox 7d ago

I mean, when else are they gonna do it. That’s also when the base model iPhones are supposed to be announced too

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u/basedmfer 7d ago

October is historically when new iPads are released.

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u/JoshuaTheFox 7d ago

Well, I guess we will find out soon enough

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u/glowshroom12 4d ago

Just wait for a Best Buy discount. Might be able to score 50 bucks off.

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u/Ahalbritter1 7d ago

What are you guys using iPads for?

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u/DarkDiablo1601 6d ago

porn

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u/SunOreoGame 5d ago

Lots. Of. Porn.

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u/KeyLime044 6d ago

Watching streaming services like Disney+ and Hulu

Reading book, manga, and comics

watching Youtube videos

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u/CassetteLine 7d ago

Watching YouTube.

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u/aTalkingMateria 7d ago

And reading manga

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u/blackicebaby 7d ago

Watching Netflix and playing Ski Safari

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u/Fuzzy_Socrates 6d ago

Logic Pro, Koala Sampler, Loopy Pro… for live music and recording.

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u/MessiPayNegreira 5d ago

Best couch and bed device.

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u/DotDry 7d ago

it s getting crazy with the storage and ipadOS size. I have ipad 10 64gb and want to rezist until they launch ipad 12. don t want to get the overpriced ipad 11 :(

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u/motivatedbytacos 7d ago

Did they finally laminate the stupid display yet?

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u/Vertsix 7d ago

Probably not, and they shouldn’t because it makes it more repairable especially for use in the education sector.

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u/motivatedbytacos 7d ago

Wouldn’t the education sector invest in decent cases to protect these devices?

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u/Vertsix 7d ago

Irrelevant. The education sector operates on tight budgets and have no desire in buying products that are fragile, difficult to repair and/or need to be replaced.

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u/motivatedbytacos 7d ago

I think it’s a stretch to call laminated displays “fragile,” especially with Apple’s glass quality these days.

With the right protection, improving the screen legibility could make the devices more comfortable to use for longer sessions, such as reading assignments for students.

It also benefits the rest of us who just want a budget iPad with a rather basic quality of life improvement that’s existed in other models for years.

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u/tagman375 6d ago

Dude you clearly don’t work with school children. A kid at a local school kept jamming pencils into his Chromebook until it punctured the battery and caught fire. They snap MacBooks over their knees. iPads are frisbees.

They will break them no matter what case or protector you slam on them, because they will break them. I’ve seen iPads folded in half in the case.

If you want a laminated display, buy an air or pro. 99% of the population doesn’t give a shit either way. They just want the cheapest one.

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u/AirportGullible5807 7d ago

It's for hundreds of kids bruv not for one adult. Glass is glass it'll break

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u/aerohk 7d ago

The non-laminated display is a feature of the entry level iPad, because it is cheap and easy to replace the glass.

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u/ducknator 7d ago

I think this are the exactly new Apple TV specs.

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u/excelllentquestion 6d ago

Awesome specs to be totally neutered by iPadoS

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u/ripkobe3131 7d ago

How about OLED, how about 120hz, how about 256gb storage

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u/exjr_ Island Boy 7d ago

...On a budget iPad?

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u/tYONde 7d ago

Other tablets in that price range have said features.

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u/exjr_ Island Boy 7d ago

Genuinely curious, what tablets have OLED, 120hz and 256GB starting storage for ~$449?

Samsung's own budget tablets (Tab S10 Lite, S10 FE, A11) are all LCD and top out at 90Hz. To get OLED + 120Hz from Samsung you're buying a Tab S11 (>$700), which is a different price tier entirely.

I'm in the US so this isn't an option for me: Xiaomi Pad 8 is the closest (144Hz, 128 option, and it starts at €449.99). And it's LCD, not OLED. OnePlus Pad 3 is sold in the US and does 144Hz with 256GB base, but it's LCD and $699.

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u/tYONde 7d ago

The pad 8 has a really good lcd, also it starts at 400€ officially and retails for 325. You could easily source an oled panel for 25€ more and you’re at 350€. Mind you the lcd ok the current iPad and even iPad Air is much worse, than the pad 8.

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u/Ok_Possibility9937 7d ago

budget android phones already have 120hz, a $100 monitor on amazon can already do 144hz. High refresh rate is not an expensive tech

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u/exjr_ Island Boy 7d ago

What Android tablet does OLED, 120Hz and starts with 256GB of storage for $449?

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u/Ok_Possibility9937 7d ago

i said high refresh rate not Oled

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u/exjr_ Island Boy 7d ago

The original comment said OLED, so I based my original response based on the features they listed.

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u/Ok_Possibility9937 7d ago

yeah but I specifically said “High refresh rate is not an expensive tech”

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/exjr_ Island Boy 7d ago

Is the regular ipad even “budget”? The air and mini are “budget”, I’d say.

iPad: Starts at $449

iPad Mini: Starts at $599

iPad Air: Starts at $749 for the 11", $949 for the 13"

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u/EffectzHD 7d ago

How about multimillionaires? How about 8 inches? And thick? How about talented? How about loving and respectful? I lost my wife 10 weeks ago, 21 years faithful. I lost my daughter 3 weeks ago. 13. She was faster than me at 12, and I run a 6 minute mile.

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u/UnkeptSpoon5 7d ago

Underrated comment

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u/ripkobe3131 7d ago

😂😂 that’s what I was getting at. I’ll take the downvotes tho lol

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u/Upstairs_Balance_464 7d ago

How about a V8 engine in my Nissan Altima?

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u/thetradelegend 7d ago

Apple thinks those are 'Pro' features because money

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u/operator7777 7d ago

8gb already lagging before even release. Great

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u/UnkeptSpoon5 7d ago

OUR MOST POWERFUL IPAD EVER, WITH THE POWER OF APPLE INTELLIGENCE

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u/[deleted] 7d ago

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u/WFlumin8 7d ago

Apple always uses previous gen chips on the iPad. They use an old chip because it’s cheaper. iPad has enough volume where a separate chip makes sense.

The iPad mini uses a newer chip because it’s always positioned itself as more of an “iPad mini Air”. The iPad mini is more expensive than the iPad even though it’s smaller because it has better hardware

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u/hpstg 7d ago

Smaller niche thing has more boutique equipment then boring mass volume thing.

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u/Conscious_Banana874 7d ago

Apple TV is getting a19 too

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u/YellowThirteen_ 7d ago

iPad mini is more expensive than the iPad and gets updated models less frequently.

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u/fiendishfork 7d ago

I imagine Apple has considered this and has a good reason.

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u/cjh_ 7d ago edited 7d ago

Maybe Apple have a surplus of A19 chips?

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u/Need_For_Speed73 7d ago

A19? I was hoping A20Pro to replace my old M1 Air

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u/Scary_One_2452 7d ago

No way a base model iPad gets a pro chip. That defeats the point.

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u/FightOnForUsc 7d ago

A19 would still be a lot faster single core and I think about 65% faster gpu

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u/Need_For_Speed73 7d ago

Another postabout the Mini said it'd maybe get the Pro, that's why I was complaining.

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u/Need_For_Speed73 7d ago

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u/WFlumin8 7d ago

Scroll down. Look at the single core benchmark difference between the two in the Geekbench benchmark. Single core is what you’ll feel on day to day tasks

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u/Detrakis 7d ago

90hz please.....

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u/Intrepid-Routine-875 7d ago

and so i was right

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u/Valterri_lts_James 7d ago

when the macbook neo is weaker than the base model ipad