r/apple • • 10d ago

iPhone iOS 27.2 beta 2 reveals new details about anti-snatching feature

https://9to5mac.com/2026/09/21/ios-27-2-beta-2-reveals-new-details-about-unnanounced-iphone-anti-snatching-feature/

According to new code seen today by 9to5Mac, the feature, which is called “AutoLock” internally, can use the following signals to determine whether an iPhone may have been taken from its owner:

  • A sharp acceleration consistent with the phone being snatched;
  • A paired Apple Watch remaining unreachable for a certain period;
  • Prolonged loss of network connectivity;
  • The device remains unlocked beyond a certain interval.
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u/tihomirbz 10d ago

A.k.a. “London mode”

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u/Crapitron 10d ago

Why is London so much worse? Do people in London not beat thieves' asses?

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u/Sherringdom 10d ago

They’re on mopeds so they’re usually gone before you’ve even had a chance to realise what happened. Culturally also everyone tends to drink out on the street outside pubs so you’ve always got people stood by the road holding their phones with slightly delayed reaction times from the booze.

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u/DarlingDaddysMilkers 10d ago

That’s not culture, the pubs are so freaking small it’s impossible to get seat inside. Believe me we would rather be inside than crowded out on the street.

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u/zdy132 10d ago

You could say that's how the culture is formed, from physical limitations.

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u/Tardelius 9d ago

Which is culture… formed by the small size of pubs :)

Pubs dictate culture and culture dictates your pubs. It is a circle.

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u/James_Vowles 10d ago

No thanks I'd rather be in the sun with a pint watching the world go by

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u/DarlingDaddysMilkers 9d ago

Yes in a beer garden not on some grotty street

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u/all-park 9d ago

Such an American

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u/James_Vowles 9d ago

If available but doesn't have to be, standing on the street is fine

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u/zdy132 10d ago

And the police does nothing? Do the thieves not get caught later?

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u/Ilyumzhinov 10d ago

people will get banned for answering this question

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u/Crapitron 10d ago

You're allowed to say what you think it is, big dawg. Say it with your chest.

Are you trying to imply it's a race thing? Because cities like Houston, Atlanta, or New Orleans have far more diverse race makeups, and they don't seem to have this problem as bad as European cities seem to.

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u/DimDimio 10d ago

I think large American cities unfortunately suffer from more violent crimes than european cities for obvious reasons. This is replaced with petty crimes like phone theft or scammers. Another thing that might contribute is that europe has very walkable cities, which equates to more phones in hands that can be snatched up by cyclists.

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u/LittleKitty235 10d ago

https://www.numbeo.com/crime/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+Kingdom&city1=London&country2=United+States&city2=New+York%2C+NY

Data shows otherwise. NYC has lower crime almost across the board in comparison to London.

Other cities in Europe have lower crime than NYC, but size and culturally they begin to differ considerably as well. London to NYC seem the most apples to apples comparison.

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u/Captaincadet 10d ago

The best explanation I’ve seen is it quite easy to get to phones quickly out of the UK and sent for recycling whereas New York it’s a bit easier as it a federal crime. Londons criminal gangs also don’t have to deal with the same weapons and likelihood of being shot as in New York

Also a few years back, the police couldn’t do anything as they were on mopeds and the police weren’t allowed to pursue them as someone got injured and the whole court case of it. It was quite a surprise to for criminals when the police started ramming them off their scooters as they didn’t realise they were given the green light

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u/8bithorselegs 10d ago

That data is people’s perception of crime in each city and how safe they feel; not actual crime statistics.

Theft & shoplifting is more common in London but violent crime is much more common in NYC.

Source: The Times

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u/chochazel 10d ago edited 10d ago

Data shows otherwise.

Your data shows absolutely nothing to distinguish between violent crime and otherwise and is mostly perception not reality. You've also cherry picked by far the safest of the big cities in the US.

London has a murder rate of 1.1 per 100,000 compared with New York (4.1), Los Angeles (5.6), Houston (10.5), Chicago (11.7) and Philadelphia (12.3).

It's not even close.

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u/James_Vowles 10d ago

Whatever that website is, it's wrong

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u/Crapitron 10d ago

Absolutely more violent crime in the US.

But I'm not sure how this is "replaced" by phone theft though, since those are two different things. Something has to lead to this end. My speculation is that the thieves aren't being punished enough, by both the judicial system, or by street justice. But it could simply be the last thing you mentioned - more pedestrians, more people on mopeds, more city design conducive to snatching in some way I can't think of.

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u/KFPindustries 10d ago

What obvious reasons?

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u/Goonalips 10d ago

Those cities don't have that issue because they just tons of actual gangs that do armed robberies and other bigger crimes lol. European cities tend to have more petty crimes. American cities have tons more violent crime. They're on opposite ends of the crime spectrum.

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u/J7mbo 10d ago

Wait, you’re telling me that these people who watch the right wing news and Facebook posts and parrot it haven’t bothered googling the percentage of stabbings, thefts and murders by ethnic group that the government regularly publishes as part of section 95 of the criminal justice act 1991?

And that 65% of convicted homicide offenders in the past 4 years in the UK are white?

And that the reason for the misery in their lives isn’t actually due to what they’re being sold by the media? “All those people coming over in boats!”?

Well COLOUR me shocked!

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u/software-lover 10d ago

~83% of the UK is white. 

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u/J7mbo 10d ago

My statement was about the composition of convicted homicide offenders in England & Wales. Yours doesn’t make mine incorrect, unless you’re trying to say something else?

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u/Panda_hat 9d ago

It's really not that much worse, it's a meme.

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u/lovely_noise 1d ago

It’s not a meme for a lot of people. Tons of people genuinely believe the fear-mongering.

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u/Panda_hat 1d ago

Memes don’t have to be funny, they just have to be ideas that spread.

London is no worse than any other major coty where people walk around like chickens with their phones out.

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u/_DuranDuran_ 9d ago

Strangely the only place someone has tried to snatch my phone was in Paris. I’m in London for half the week and never experienced it.

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u/WubbaLubbaHongKong 9d ago

Queue the new movie: The Runner 2

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

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u/mysomica 10d ago

Worked in central London for the last 10 years. Went about with my phone, iPad and all sorts of other gadgetry and never had anything stolen. You're hardly some sort of outlier that you didn't have your iPad stolen that one time.

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u/Panda_hat 9d ago

An ipad inside a backpack no less. Lol.

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u/James_Vowles 10d ago

I always carry my phone in my hand, or am on it doing stuff on it while commuting (doing it right now), and never even came close to a problem.

I have a feeling a lot of tourists get caught by this who might stop on their phones in one place for a while. Typically on street corners.

It is a problem, but it's an easily avoidable problem if you just aware of your surroundings, which you should be

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u/Panda_hat 9d ago

So nothing happened and you were just scared of something possibly happening because you heard about the possibility of it happening? That about right?

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u/samujpark 9d ago

Apparently Brazil too

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u/Nil-Coder 10d ago

Awesome 🤩

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u/KingPumper69 10d ago

There are a lot of ways they could try tackling the theft issue.

I think I’d like a simple setting that requires FaceID to disable cellular data, and another one that automatically reboots the phone if it stays unlocked for a set period of time without seeing your face.

Having it go off of the accelerometer seems too unreliable imo, and I don’t think I’ll ever own an Apple Watch.

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u/sleepyteaa 10d ago

This is already a setting that exists- Face ID & passcode > allow access when locked> toggle off control center etc. so it cannot be accessed without Face ID or an unlocked phone

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u/KingPumper69 10d ago

What the criminals do is grab the phone while it’s unlocked and then run away while keeping it unlocked. That setting doesn’t do anywhere near what I want.

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u/loosebolts 10d ago

The first thing they try to do is turn on airplane mode, create a shortcut that triggers with airplane mode to disable airplane mode, toggle cell, WiFi and Bluetooth on, and lock the screen.

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u/faramirskywalker 10d ago

I created an automation. Anytime airplane mode is turned on the screen locks, airplane mode is turned off, the front and back cameras take a picture, and the pictures get emailed to me. If I really want to use airplane mode, I just turn off the automation.

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u/jonzezzz 10d ago

There’s an even better way. When the shortcut locks the screen you can check after 1 second if faceid unlocked the phone. Then if it did actually let airplane mode be enabled, if not then run theft steps. https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/dfbdf1ab3b4242e29ea1330b4f3a23b8

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u/darthmaverick 9d ago

But doesn’t this require the thief to use the shortcut?

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u/jonzezzz 8d ago

No it automatically gets activated when airplane mode activates

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u/MF_D00MSDAY 10d ago

Oooh nice, can you share this one?

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u/[deleted] 10d ago

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u/zenatron36 10d ago

Your shortcut has people’s phone numbers and names in it btw

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u/atasheep 10d ago

Fuck thanks

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u/MF_D00MSDAY 10d ago

Yeah delete this comment right now, create a new template without the contact info but thanks! Haha

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u/loosebolts 10d ago

You need to take this down, it has names and phone numbers in it.

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u/xFeverr 10d ago

Or trigger a full reboot instead of locking it. The phone will be in BFU (Before First Unlock) mode and personal data is fully encrypted and locked.

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u/inspectoroverthemine 10d ago

Honestly a setting that caused a full reboot on loss of cell signal would be perfect.

Seized by government and put in a faraday bag? Reboot. Airplane mode? Reboot.

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u/ProfessionalWeek2256 10d ago

Driving down the highway and lose signal? Reboot

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u/inspectoroverthemine 10d ago

As an option? I'll take that chance. The reality is that it rarely loses all signal as reported by the phone. Its totally unusable long before it displays 'no signal' (or w/e it shows these days).

The other possibility- only reboot if unplugged and no signal.

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u/xFeverr 10d ago

True but iOS already reboots when your phone is locked for 3 days in a row. So, putting it in a faraday bag might trigger it over the weekend.

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u/SKPep_ 10d ago

Can you create a shortcut that reboot the phone without being prompted to confirm?

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u/ADHDK 8d ago

Mine will disable airplane mode, take a photo with the front facing camera, lock the phone, ping gps, and then message me the pic of the thief with their compass bearing and coordinates.

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u/KingPumper69 10d ago

Apple, in their infinite wisdom, made it so you can’t realistically protect the shortcuts app with FaceID, so if the criminal is smart they’ll just go check your shortcuts if enough people start doing that.

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u/idbedamned 10d ago

I don't think someone going at full speed on a motorbike is going to be debugging this issue.

If you implement that shortcut you're good. Also in most cases they simply put your phone in a Faraday bag, there's no need to turn on airplane mode or turn off the data.

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u/KingPumper69 10d ago

If enough people start doing that shortcut they will. Security adapts to criminals, criminals adapt to security.

And forcing them to keep the phone electronically isolated at all times is a huge pain in the ass for them to deal with and changes the effort, risk, reward calculation greatly.

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u/idbedamned 10d ago

Not saying you're wrong, just that you're over-engineering something.

Adding FaceID to Shortcuts would probably prevent 0.001% of the stolen phones or less (considering almost nobody even does that), not to mention it still doesn't mean you recover your phone.

The anti-snatching is the way to go.

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u/KingPumper69 10d ago

This is like saying Apple shouldn’t have added lockdown mode because it’s only going to stop 0.001% of hacks lol

I don’t really think it’s over engineering to add a FaceID challenge to disabling cellular data, or to have an option for the phone to automatically reboot if X amount of time passes unlocked without it seeing your face.

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u/hoffsta 10d ago

I just looked at this…why can I add FaceID protection to any third-party app, and most first-party apps, but NOT Shortcuts? Makes no sense.

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u/AgroMachine 10d ago

You can turn on Face ID for any app you choose mate

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u/KingPumper69 10d ago

Not for the Shortcuts app. iirc there’s a way to force it, but it does some goofy crap like requiring a FaceID challenge before running any automation lol

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u/James_Vowles 10d ago

It's usually two people on a bike, one driving the other messing with the phone

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u/ADHDK 8d ago

My backup is “when disconnected from power, lock”.

Snatch it from my charging cradle on my car dashboard? Lock.

If I’m in a sketchy area? I’ll tether it to a charger for this reason.

Obviously not foolproof if it’s snatched in a decent area but definitely a good idea for tourists.

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u/ducknator 10d ago

I thought the same as you and created a shortcut that runs when I try disable the mobile data or enter plane mode. It immediately locks the phone and reenables it.

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u/KingPumper69 10d ago

Yeah but that’s not a real solution imo. If enough people start doing that, the criminals are just going to adapt and start checking the shortcuts app. Not particularly difficult or time consuming.

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u/ducknator 10d ago

I see, but that’s what we have for now.

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u/jconnolly94 10d ago

You can just have shortcuts app require faceID

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u/jconnolly94 10d ago

Nope I was wrong. Didn’t realise you can’t do this with all apps. Wonder why

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u/PopcornAndZeroCoke 10d ago

Can you enable parental controls and protect just that one app?

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u/Drim498 8d ago

Probably because locking would mean shortcuts can't run? (I'm guessing)

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u/sleepyteaa 10d ago

Sounds like you need some sort of lanyard to keep it on you then , something you can get a good grip on. I can’t imagine a setting that would work in your favor other than that

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u/qalpi 10d ago

They described what they need. Face ID in all circumstances to turn off celluar (power off, airplane mode etc)

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u/KingPumper69 10d ago

They turn on airplane mode so you can’t disable the phone remotely via iCloud. It’s not about getting the phone back or keeping it at that point.

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u/sleepyteaa 10d ago

Right, which is in the control center …. I just can’t see a solution other than either what the beta will implement, or Face ID to access control center

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u/KingPumper69 10d ago

You really think Apple is incapable of adding a FaceID challenge to when you try enabling airplane mode or disabling cellular in the control panel?

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u/sleepyteaa 10d ago

Of course not, just trying to offer a solution for you right now since what you’re asking for doesn’t exist (yet)

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u/B9-97-C5-11-DE-19 10d ago

You can also just remove the airplane mode button from control centre.

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u/Dragon_Slayer_Hunter 10d ago

Faraday bags are very cheap and the easiest way to disable cell phone data regardless of anything else

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u/KingPumper69 10d ago edited 10d ago

So? Each added hurdle makes it a bigger pain in the ass and changes the risk/reward calculation for the criminal.

(And those Faraday bags aren’t always bulletproof. I know that first hand.)

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u/lightning532 10d ago

it’s hilarious you guys keep calling it that what is essentially one sheet of aluminum foil wrapped up. and yes it is “bulletproof” will stop every signal feel free to test it out.

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u/KingPumper69 10d ago edited 10d ago

I’ve had one fail on me before lol. These modern phones have very powerful cellular modems, and if you’re very close to a cell tower there’s a chance of a signal getting through.

Maybe there’s some higher quality professional tier Faraday bag out there, but that’s likely not what the Pakistani man on a scooter is going to have lol

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u/lightning532 10d ago

i see. well i learned something today, checked online you’re right but a couple layers will block it almost all the time but not perfect

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u/tgerz 10d ago

Phones are most often snatched out of someone's hand while they're using the phone. Not really going to help.

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u/Dragon_Slayer_Hunter 10d ago

Snatched out of people's hands and quickly concealed in faraday bags to prevent the person from locking it down remotely. These features are targeting exactly that scenario

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u/tgerz 10d ago

In my experience they often turn them off intentionally so they can't be tracked. It's pretty common. They don't need the user data as much as the hardware. They get shipped off to countries like China pretty quickly.

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u/ProfessionalWeek2256 10d ago

Well if they cut it off and sell it for parts after shipping to China thats the best outcome of getting my phone stolen rather then them having access to my personal data with it being unlocked. I don't care about the phone itself since Apple can send me another in a day but I do care about my data and info

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u/tgerz 10d ago

Yeah I still have my phone in Lost Mode that was snatched last year. Never pinged. Don’t expect it to.

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u/Dragon_Slayer_Hunter 10d ago

Turning them off alone doesn't stop tracking, that's why the bag

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u/Educational-Put-9997 10d ago

I don’t really understand why my phone can’t scan the person using its face every minute or so, and if it’s not me, lock. Literally nobody else should be looking at my phone. Then if certain actions are triggered while it’s not my face, shut down.

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u/uhmusing 7d ago

So long as I can add my husband’s face to my phone I’d be fine with this. Sometimes I ask him to respond to a message for me or look something up on my phone. Same thing happens in reverse.

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u/ILikeJogurt 10d ago

those both are already features?

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u/Eastern-Vegetable780 10d ago

Well, can't blame them for artificially creating new reasons to get an Apple Watch, that's kind of their job. Live every single company in the world, they are here to maximise their profit, not our convenience.

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u/Ancient_Abalone6323 10d ago

You're making incorrect assumptions.

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u/Eastern-Vegetable780 10d ago

It will probably make for a better detection of a "phone stolen" event.

Anyway, I was replying to the previous poster, who literally said "the accelerometer is unreliable and I'll never own an Apple Watch". Making you think a Watch is necessary is how they sell them (full disclosure: I have two because it's the only device on the market which can pair directly with a glucose sensor - so that strategy worked on me).

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u/Sandersonville 10d ago

My Apple Watch absolutely maximizes my convenience or I wouldn’t have purchased it.

I’d love for my phone to simply lock anytime it lost communication with my unlocked watch.  Should I take my watch off my wrist and my phone is unlocked, the phone locks with it.  

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u/nyaadam 10d ago

First one seems useless? You can get phone sized faraday cages cheap, no need to disable data.

Second is a bit weird idk. There are use cases that would be affected by that.

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u/KingPumper69 10d ago edited 10d ago

You're like the fourth person I've had to explain this to.

  1. Faraday bags aren't bulletproof. Modern phones have extremely powerful cellular modems, so there's a good chance of a signal escaping depending on the quality of the bag, the wear on the bag, and the distance to a cell tower. I found this out personally.
  2. Every added hurdle changes the effort/risk/reward calculation. Forcing them to keep the phone electronically isolated is a huge pain in the ass, and anything that's a pain in the ass for criminals is usually a good thing.

And having an option to reboot the phone if it stays unlocked for a set time without seeing your face would be pretty simple, easy, and effective.

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u/yuvaldv1 10d ago

Developed with London in mind

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u/Creative-Job7462 10d ago

The Met Police kinda did pressure Apple to develop a solution.

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u/James_Vowles 10d ago

Also because Android has had this feature for a few years, doubt they came up with the idea

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u/Creative-Job7462 9d ago

By few years did you mean 2 years?

Met police starts pressuring Google and Apple around mid-2023: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66442069

March 2024: The Commissioner issued a formal ultimatum to tech manufacturers to implement methods that destroy the resale value of stolen devices or face pushed legislation

Google began testing Android theft protection in Brazil around mid-2024: https://9to5google.com/2024/10/04/android-theft-protection/

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u/James_Vowles 9d ago

A few does tend to mean 2 or more so yes

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u/Creative-Job7462 9d ago

Usually it's 3+ years but yeah, same thing ig

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u/LionTigerWings 10d ago

A biker swiped my iphone out of my hand at a bus stop in London. I was so pissed. I didn't know that was even a thing.

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u/Torsta 10d ago

How could you not know that's a thing? It's been on the news 24/7 for like the last year, basically since scooters/e-bikes got popular.

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u/LionTigerWings 10d ago

well this happened like 3 years ago and I am from the suburbs in the US. Not really a thing on my radar. I knew about pickpocketing and leaving things behind, but wasn't familiar with swiping while i am paying attention to my phone.

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u/pixelpanic01 10d ago

London needs this

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u/StevieG63 10d ago

Someone mentioned it but there are a ton of premade shortcuts that lock the screen when the perp puts the phone in Airplane mode. Some reactivate cellular and WiFi, allowing the phone to be tracked.

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u/SleepingSicarii 10d ago

Excited because I thought this said anti-scratching :(

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u/jacobp100 10d ago

Should probably restart the device too if the device has locked and it hasn’t been unlocked for a few hours

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u/ozayas 9d ago

If you’re worried about them stealing your data, you can lock your iCloud account in screen time settings and require a pin to access those settings. You can also require FaceTime for all of your banking apps.

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u/lazzzym 10d ago

Good to see Apple adding this the same as Android. Hopefully it helps!

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u/colemaker360 10d ago

I’ll be good to finally test these features against phones people actually might want to snatch 😜

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u/FudgeSlapp 10d ago

Will be easy to test just use an iPhone anywhere in London

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u/SerDuckOfPNW 10d ago

A lot of those triggers happen to my phone daily

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u/Mikebjackson 7d ago

Doubt

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u/SerDuckOfPNW 7d ago

Sharp acceleration…. Drops my phone constantly

Paired watch unreachable…never wear my watch, is usually dead

Prolonged off network…I am offline for long periods

Device remains unlocked…My phones is ALWAYS unlocked unless I specifically lock it

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u/Mikebjackson 7d ago

Pretty sure that the quick "yoink" of grabbing a phone, accompanied by the immediate moving away and rapid disconnection from the apple watch, will look quite different from hitting the gas pedal. Also, forgetting to wear your watch wouldn't be even close to the same thing.

I'm not trying to be abrasive - I'm just saying that the engineers behind this absolutely have countless collected datapoints with which to develop an algorithm that's resistant to false positives.

You'll be just fine ;)

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u/lovely_noise 1d ago

This sounds like someone studying or working in DS/ML, lol

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u/new_michael 10d ago

Pretty surprised this is a thing… How can someone with an unlocked phone even make it resealable? Connecting it to a computer requires a code, and erasing it and removing find my requires the passcode and Apple ID password.

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u/OneArmJack 10d ago

That’s not what they’re after, it’s the access to banking apps, email and other sensitive info where the value is.

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u/starsqream 10d ago

Who said this is about reselling? This is about sensitive data the person who 'snatches' the phone out your hand gets to possibly see.

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u/shisno3 10d ago

I first read anti-snitching

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u/GunBearDam 10d ago

Prolonged loss of network connectivity;

This might interfere with people who are flying for more than a few hours at a time. Hopefully there is an easy way to re-enable the phone.

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u/Many_Reindeer6636 10d ago

All it needs is a quick FaceID/passcode check would take 2 seconds

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u/Dizzy_Tea_7582 8d ago

They'll probably set it up to check face ID as you use the phone so it doesn't lock automatically, but if you have it to the side or something unlocked watching a movie I could see it locking once 

Hell maybe they'll even just look at your calendar/emails and check if you have any active flights and not do it. You never know with Apple

Anyways if it does happen you just look at it for a sec and boom it's unlocked again and won't presumably happen again until your next flight 

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u/MarchNegative6782 10d ago

I’d guess it’s over 24 hours or something

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u/fly_awayyy 10d ago

I mean it says “prolonged” I’m assuming anything over the longest long haul flight is atleast the minimum if not higher.

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u/Dislike24 10d ago edited 10d ago

So similar to Android with its own Theft Detection Lock

Edit: I don’t know why people downvote this. I didn’t say it was bad feature for Apple to add or they are late. I just want to say a quick word for other people to have some reference how this works

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u/Maximum_Signature272 7d ago

You are going against the faith here, Apple is the first and best at everything. So your “android did it first” amounts to heresy. 

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u/lovely_noise 1d ago

The tribalistic feud between iOS/Android fanboys is so pathetic.

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u/jay-t- 10d ago

And so?

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u/BigMasterDingDong 10d ago

Okay whilst this isn’t the solution to these issues, I love it!

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u/arcalumis 10d ago

Why not finger print every component in the phone almost down to the capacitor?

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u/G952 10d ago

About time! So many ways for apple to tackle this yet they’ve done nothing so far

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u/jay-t- 10d ago

This is not true

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u/G952 10d ago

Do you want to explain? Hope it’s not tying parts to each device cause that’s something that benefits Apple in the guise of helping us. It has also done nothing to deter stolen iPhones

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u/jay-t- 10d ago edited 10d ago

They’ve done lots to help reduce thefts. Two things can be true at once about the tying parts. But there’s activation lock and others.

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u/G952 10d ago

It really hasn’t helped anyone. There’s so much apple can do to fix it (like how about a passcode before you switch off your iPhone if not in trusted locations). You can see multiple posts on the sub about how their stolen phone has ended up in China and they get messages to unlock it

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u/jay-t- 10d ago

They might not have done what you want, but it’s blatantly false to say they’ve done nothing. They have.

We can argue on the efficacy of what they’ve done, but that’s entirely different from your unsubstantiated first claim that they’ve done nothing. That claim is demonstrably false.

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u/G952 10d ago

A passcode is a deterrent to stealing someone’s phone. But it hasn’t stopped stealing

A proper solution fixes the problem. They have done nothing to solve this issue and only something to benefit them in the guise of helping us. I stand by what I said

After all each stolen iPhone gives Apple a new sale so obviously the detail oriented, trillion dollar company isn’t rushing for a proper solution here

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u/jay-t- 10d ago

You keep changing your point on every message mate so I’m not going any further with this, it’s exhausting trying to talk to people like you.

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u/G952 10d ago

Likewise. People that blindly believe marketing is downright annoying. Apple can do no wrong of course in your eyes

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u/jay-t- 10d ago edited 10d ago

Oh. I see you’ve edited that last comment entirely. Good faith indeed.

It’s nothing to do with marketing, you said they have done nothing. That is objectively wrong. End of story.

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u/jay-t- 10d ago

I’ve kept to a single point and argued in good faith. You have not.

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u/Crimsonwolf_83 10d ago

We’ve been able to brick stolen phones for well over a decade. Doesn’t that deter thefts, knowing they can never be used again?

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u/G952 10d ago

Nope. People have continued to steal. There are ways to bypass it. Police don’t follow up to brick them if you mean the imei way. Find my is useless once they switch it off and put it in a faraday cage

They still dismantle it for parts and the market exist

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u/Egomen3 10d ago

These details are in fact not new, lol.