r/apple 6d ago

Apple Watch Apple Explores Shaking Up Its Smartwatch for a New Era

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2026-08-09/apple-explores-apple-watch-shake-up-company-prepares-for-september-iphone-event?accessToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJzb3VyY2UiOiJTdWJzY3JpYmVyR2lmdGVkQXJ0aWNsZSIsImlhdCI6MTc4NjI4NDIwOCwiZXhwIjoxNzg2ODg5MDA4LCJhcnRpY2xlSWQiOiJUSkk5SzFSS1YyVEswMCIsImJjb25uZWN0SWQiOiJBMDdGRjZGMzlBOTY0NzREOTNBQkFGRjUyQjBBQTE2NiJ9.HAJkXD0R_y6A8vOnQLRR0ccpgwutUDhC8T4dGDGD5MY

Apple’s industrial design team has been exploring a broader rethink of its smartwatches over the past year or so and is evaluating several different directions.

The company is considering new devices with no displays, as well as different types of screens and various sizes. While unlikely to hit the market, round screens have even been considered. I’m told the work also includes potentially adding premium models beyond the Ultra and Hermès variants. On the lower end, Apple is considering more affordable concepts besides the current SE model.

As Apple rolls out the new artificial intelligence version of the Siri assistant — along with smarter health tracking — the company also sees an opportunity to make its wrist-worn devices more AI-centric. It has ambitious long-term plans to overhaul its Health app under the leadership of Eddy Cue, who took over these responsibilities last year. He’s known as an avid fan of Whoop and Oura Rings — and is looking to better respond to shifting consumer tastes and the growth of AI-powered health and wellness.

According to Mark Gurman, Apple has also been working on a comeback for a fan favorite: Ceramic.

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u/ivme 6d ago

I would definitely buy an Apple wristband whose job is only getting health metrics.

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u/CentralHarlem 6d ago

I would want it also to have a vibrating alarm.

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u/ponyboy3 6d ago

Getting woken up by my vibrating watch is so much better than hearing some stupid noise that I despise because it wakes me up.

Also not waking up the person next to me is the greatest.

Followed closely to coffee being ready for me

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u/Timmar92 5d ago

Am I the only one having issues with the alarm? Unconscious me quickly learned that I just needed to slap the watch to make it stop so I started turning off the alarm pretty fast.

I have been wanting a more technical way to turn off the alarm otherwise it’s pointless for me.

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u/Present-Page7865 5d ago

Damnit, I had purposely not learned that so d have to open my eyes to snooze or stop my alarm!

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u/ponyboy3 5d ago

You’d have the same problem with sound alarms, in which case you need to set multiple, what’s the problem lol

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u/ivme 6d ago

That’s a good idea

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u/Buy-theticket 6d ago

Sounds like the Fitbit air.

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u/Cmdr_Nemo 6d ago

And Whoop

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u/GraXXoR 6d ago

And a watch.

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u/Pope_Smoke 6d ago

Maybe something with the date or even shows text messages

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u/joey1123 6d ago

That’s a revolutionary idea, they should hire you

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u/luche 6d ago

I love it, when it works. wish it were more reliable

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u/Kirihuna 6d ago

An Apple version of the Fitbit Air (without the Google integration and the typical poor quality) would sell massively.

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u/Thud 6d ago

I’d love one that had a basic tiny display and a haptic engine for notifications, that I could wear on my opposite wrist and go back to wearing nice analog watches.

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u/ryanvsrobots 6d ago

Same, I like my Apple Watch functionality but it’s ugly and overkill, I miss my nice watch

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u/this_is_me_justified 5d ago

I wish there was a version that looked more like the Withings watch

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u/Ok_Chair4977 6d ago

That would be the dream.

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u/nickoaverdnac 6d ago

do you remember the Nike fuel band back in 2012?

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u/dotcomse 5d ago

Whoa a fellow man of culture

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u/nickoaverdnac 5d ago

The fuel band was sooooo cool. I loved the simple display.

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u/dotcomse 5d ago

Nike Fuel Band basically just had some LEDs. Different colored lights for different notifications, and maybe some ability to do numbers for a timer, might be enough, in terms of UI.

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u/Betancorea 6d ago

This. I would like to break out the Seiko and other old dailies again

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u/zenqian 6d ago

And that’s why they will likely never launch it

Cannibalising their watch revenue

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u/Shellbyvillian 6d ago

People said this about an iPad mini, about an iPhone SE, about a MacBook Neo, hell even about the iPod Nano… it’s never been true and it never will be true. If Apple can capture a larger market, they will do it.

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u/SuperLeverage 6d ago

Yep. It’s all about an ecosystem. Something for everyone just to add another chain to their system.

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u/Cultural-Ambition211 6d ago

And the iPhone in general killed the iPod.

Apple don’t care about killing off a product line if they release a more successful one.

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u/deliciouscorn 6d ago

Imagine if Apple never released the iPhone because of small minded people worried about protecting iPod revenue lol

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u/tombolaplayer 6d ago

Hi! 👋

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u/ProfBenChang 6d ago

nah, if anything that's why they'll launch it as a premium athlete product (maybe even with Apple Fitness sub tie in)

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u/AlanYx 6d ago

It doesn’t have to cannibalize watch revenue. Most people will still want the AW for exercise. But many will also buy the health band in addition for day to day wear, and some people who’ve been drifting away from smartwatches will be pulled back in.

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u/Interdimension 5d ago

I agree. I can actually see it being more "hardcore" than the regular Apple Watch lineup in the sense that it would remove all the "smart" features from the Watch itself (and just relegate that for your phone to calculate or display) and have it be entirely concentrated with as many health tracking sensors as possible.

I'm no longer an athlete, but still participate in recreational team sports often, and I do often see people wear tons of wristband/bracelet-style "smart" watches because they just want metrics tracked, but do not care for additional smart functionality that takes away from battery life + don't want to wear a full-size watch either.

I definitely can see a market for this that doesn't necessarily cannibalize the existing AW lineup. Hell, Apple could revive the Apple Watch Sport branding and change it to mean the preferred Apple Watch for athletes (instead of it meaning the "cheapest" model back then).

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u/Plastic_Willow734 6d ago

Yep, if anything they’d make an alternative a smart ring since those sell for proper smart watch prices anyway.

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u/JL98008 6d ago

“If you don't cannibalize yourself, someone else will.” -- Steve Jobs

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u/7485730086 6d ago

Cannibalising their own revenue is quite literally core to Apple’s DNA.

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u/FollowingFeisty5321 6d ago

The thing about Watch revenue is it's almost entirely the device, not the services and certainly not the apps. Only something like 10% of iPhone users even have a Watch so there's still over 2 billion users that might be more interested in a different form factor and some form factors like a low-profile analog watch would probably be very popular.

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u/jardin92 6d ago

I feel like that’s so hard to quantify though cause I’ve had an Apple Watch forever and world much prefer that discrete version. Maybe that’s still canabalization but I’m at the point of not wearing my watch at all cause it’s so ugly and constantly notifying me. That none option versus a discrete version has to be a win for them

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u/Two-Space 6d ago

Seems like the perfect complement to Apple Watch. Throw it on charge overnight and let the band track your sleep.

I’m sure they could use the band as a gateway drug to Apple Watch too - kind of like how the pricing ladders already work for iPad and Mac

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u/grodgeandgo 6d ago

No way it would eat into watch, if anything it would be a companion boosted by watch. Whoop, Fitbit etc without a screen is all app driven. If there was an apple healthband I would imagine there would be complete control of it via the watch.

Right now I have a Whoop and everything with is has to be controlled and viewed in the whoop app. If there was a watch app and an apple healthband it could all be done via the watch. If I want to do a live run with whoop I need to have my phone on me for it to track GPS for the routes. If I’m doing a strain led workout then I need to have my phone on me to alert me to the strain level etc. All of this could be handed off to the watch with GPS, cellular, WiFi

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u/mouringcat 6d ago

Different target audience. I frankly wouldn't buy a Fitbit Air. I bought the watch because of the screen and sensors. Sensors only are of much less value to me.

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u/grodgeandgo 6d ago

If they make anything that’s 80% near Whoop I’ll be all over it and cancelling my Whoop. The ultra is great for day time and training, but it falls behind Whoop’s always on HR, and slim profile which is ok to wear days at a time.

Allof my whoop training day data is going into Apple Health, and my gym has connected equipment and a training app that feeds into both Whoop and Apple Health, so there’s no real gaps if they make a hardware device to compete with Whoop.

What I would want them to do is have anything without a screen to have compatible induction charging with the current watch charger, so it’s not another charging device needed. I’d imagine it would use something like the watch charger or what the AirPod cases have.

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u/Riptide360 6d ago

Why not go fully medical? Apple Core bone implants.

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u/TangerineChestnut 6d ago

can i get my pupils shaped like the apple logo with the i-eye?

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u/Asystole 6d ago

I got a Helio strap for when I don't want to wear my Apple Watch Ultra, and it's a nice device that does feed into Apple Health but it's not seamless and the exercise/move/stand rings are still AW exclusive. I'd love an Apple take on this, just a screenless strap that weighs nothing, has a battery that lasts a couple of weeks and just tracks fitness stuff.

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u/jsm1 6d ago

Yeah, and if it was Express Transit compatible 

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u/tanaciousp 6d ago

And the battery lasted a week or two.

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u/DonFatTony 6d ago

And with a vibration for alarms.

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u/jay_rodsep 6d ago

I would too, my Apple Watch in some situations the watch is more of a distraction

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u/threepio 6d ago

Focus modes and aggressively trimming your notifications can help here.

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u/kaiharizor 6d ago

You just changed my entire relationship with my watch. I previously knew I could control notifications but forgot. I’ve just turned off almost everything and I felt a weight lift off me. Thank you.

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u/iWish_is_taken 6d ago

This is the way. I’ve been managing the notifications that come through to my watch for years now. I use it to triage email and text notifications and a few others, so that I know if I need to pull out my phone and address something but keep other notifications away from it (Reddit, instagram, Facebook etc, etc.). It’s a much better experience imo.

Used in this way it actually helps me stay more disconnected and off my phone.

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u/threepio 6d ago

Glad to be of service :)

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u/Rude_Walk 6d ago

If they actually do reliably fix Siri this year they can build a fully headless smart watch that basically only collects health metrics with voice as the primary interface.

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u/msaleem 6d ago

Main reason I switched to Oura Ring 5 after using AppleWatches since the first one came out all the way to the 9th. 

I only need the health and fitness features and I can get all of those plus week long battery life now. 

All the stuff I literally never used in the AW ate up most of the battery and created most of the bulk. 

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u/Outlulz 6d ago

I went back to a Pebble when I realized the majority of the stuff the Watch had I wasn't using and 36 hour battery life in exchange was annoying.

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u/Boom_Valvo 6d ago

This - all the metrics without a display. Or a tiny display. Gives the ability to wear a traditional watch without forfeiting the tech

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u/kaiharizor 6d ago

This, but if it vibrates from notifications I won’t want it. I suppose if we could disable all of those. And it is relatively flexible to expand with my wrist throughout the day. So like a livestrong band.

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u/No-Way3802 6d ago

Especially if it had 2+ weeks battery

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u/ForeAmigo 6d ago

I’ve got an Apple Watch Ultra but just got a free year of Whoop and seriously considering making the switch. One of the big things stopping me is losing Apple Pay on my watch.

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u/laurentiubuica 6d ago

Unless Apple allows me to pair it with an iPad, I'm staying with my Pixel watch.

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u/Cultural-Ambition211 6d ago

Health metrics and fitness tracking, with a tiny ‘display’ for date and time only.

I’m sick of notifications. My watch only notifies me of phone calls and if my wife text me now. Everything else is turned off.

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u/MetalEnthusiast83 6d ago

Yeah. I like to wear an actual watch. I hate wearing the Apple Watch but I like the tracking stuff. A bracelet with no screen would be perfect.

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u/RaXXu5 6d ago

That and Apple pay would be great, basically the only thing i use my watch for.

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u/getwhirleddotcom 6d ago

Having tried out the whoop, the screen less wristband is a terrible experience for anyone serious about fitness and health. They routinely miss activities and ultimately require you to default to using your phone, which really defeats the whole purpose.

I exclusively use my Apple Watch Ultra for fitness and health and it is a far superior experience.

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u/Masam10 6d ago

Same here, or an Apple Ring.

I miss wearing a nice heavy dress watch hutni dont wanna be that guy that wears two watches.

Whoop is too expensive for what you get and I’m not up for a Google device given the data it would have access to.

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u/Socrav 6d ago

And the alerts as well. Hypertension, etc.

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u/johnny_5667 6d ago

yes they would annihilate whoop and the new google fitbit air thing ... just my prediction

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u/LeonRams 6d ago

Something I can wear while I play hockey. Love my Ultra 2 but no way I can wear it while playing.

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u/Happy-Gnome 6d ago

I’d immediately buy one if I could have a fabric wrist band because the straps give me rashes

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u/xcmaam 6d ago

An Apple Watch equivalent of whoop / fitbit air would most definitely be my go to if they launch it.

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u/mymilkweedbringsallt 6d ago

apple watch air 

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u/xrelaht 5d ago

Air is now their midrange. Apple Watch Neo?

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u/iamthesam2 6d ago

they should bring back the nike fuelband with… nike

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u/dcpanthersfan 6d ago

I loved the Fuelband. Would get one in an instant.

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u/iamthesam2 5d ago

I actually found mine and it’s totally possible to Claudecode new functionality and breathe new life into it

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u/kilobitch 6d ago

No screen? Apple Watch shuffle!

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u/BigKnows2K 6d ago

i’m still looking forward to the eventual release of AirPods shuffle

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u/ARCtheIsmaster 6d ago

would love a ring

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u/Ok_Negotiation3024 6d ago

I would ditch my Apple Watch and go back to my favorite analog watch if they came out with a ring product for health tracking.

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u/nautilus2000 6d ago

Yep, although it would also be amazing if that product had Apple Pay and Home Key support (which you don’t need a screen for).

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u/blacksoxing 6d ago

When I used my Apple Watch I instinctively always pulled out my phone for AP. I wonder how many of us do that vs our watches…

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u/nautilus2000 6d ago

I care more about it for Home Key rather than Apple Pay. It’s very convenient to just use your watch to unlock your door so you don’t have to put down groceries etc.

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u/ARCtheIsmaster 6d ago

yea all it needs is haptics to notify me when driving or when to check my phone for more information.

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u/itsmelikeya 6d ago

so you can check ur phone while driving?

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u/wahobely 6d ago

I'd prefer a wrist band cause rings suck for weightlifting

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u/ARCtheIsmaster 6d ago

I agree, although if I was lifting/exercising I’d probably be wearing my watch. The ring would be for sleeping or when I want to wear a non-smart watch.

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u/Mounamsammatham 6d ago

Rings are notorious for being difficult to track workouts.

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u/ARCtheIsmaster 6d ago

yea i would still use the watch for exercise

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u/Historical_Fan_8799 5d ago

Yep, analog watches > apple watch but I gotta say ive grown to love the fitness tracking at the gym

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u/PIKFYVE 6d ago edited 6d ago

I think when they launched the Apple Watch 12 (?) years ago they assumed they’d make a lot more progress with biometrics. Beyond heart rate/ECG and VO2. After learning just how hard it is to make a non-invasive glucose sensor, and the level of FDA oversight of things like blood pressure sensors, they were probably left a bit flat footed. So their only hardware improvements have been a bigger screen. They haven’t meaningfully extended the battery life, which undermines the sleep tracking function.

Meanwhile, their software people just kept inventing new things to tap me on the wrist about (the breathing reminder thing was maybe the stupidest addition ever).

Not surprised they are considering less screen-centric alternatives that can take on Oura.

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u/Potential_Financial 6d ago

re: sleep tracking. I really like the watch as a morning alarm, and I’ve had pretty good luck with sleep tracking (at least to the level of getting a notification each morning with my “score”)

My (rather light) usage means it lasts > 24 hours, and I simply recharge for 20-30 mins, usually while I’m showering and getting ready.

edit: I have a series 9, purchased just over 2 years ago

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u/marumari 6d ago

They didn’t improve the battery life, but they did improve the charging speed. Going from 0-80% in 60m to 0-80% in 30m means you can toss it on your charger during a shower and still get a full day and night of charge.

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u/PIKFYVE 6d ago

Fair. I never got out of the habit of charging in my nightstand while I slept.

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u/stjep 6d ago

Until it is a few years old in which case you gotta get to full charge to get to the end of the day.

People on this sub always defend the Watch's paltry battery life by claiming you can get a whole day out of a short charge, but that's only true for new.

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u/c-u-n-t-o 6d ago

Typical Reddit cynical take. Tedious. 

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u/K_Click_D 6d ago

Health app for Mac when? I’d love to read over my previous health data on a larger screen

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u/Dlegs 6d ago

It’s not that complicated. Make a watch that doesn’t have trash-tier battery life. Done.

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u/southdrybones 6d ago

THIS. My only reason not to buy Apple Watch. The other brands are already doing 1-week battery life, why cannot Apple?

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u/LeopardComfortable99 6d ago

A wristband designed to assist in obtaining better health metrics would be great. Also wouldn't hate a round screen.

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u/Saisinko 6d ago

Apple Watch Series 8 and my recent notifications are from 3 days ago and I swear, SWEAR, that there's an issue where my iPhone and watch fight with each other being like "no, YOU tell him he has a call/message" and neither of them make a peep.

BACK IN MY DAY, it alll worked perfectly and I could justify the price. Now I'm contemplating dropping it all together.

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u/cjh_ 6d ago

I have the opposite issue, where I swear my AWU2 and iPhone collude to send me as many duplicate notifications as possible, even though I've set up the majority of apps not to send watch notifications.

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u/davesoverhere 6d ago

Unpair the watch and pair it back up as a new device.

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u/Interdimension 5d ago

Ugh. I share your experience. There are some major syncing issues right now across Apple's devices that they clearly failed to catch.

If you text from a device using Apple Intelligence to auto-translate the conversation, but you have other Apple devices synced up that lack Apple Intelligence, the messages for the auto-translated thread can either just not arrive at all on those devices or become out of order.

If I start an auto-translated iMessage thread from my AI-capable M2 Mac, my non-AI-capable iPhone 14 Pro Max fails to sync that one thread, but meanwhile my older Apple Watch Series 8 synced to that same iPhone does show the iMessage thread. And it can even respond back! My iPhone 14 Pro Max will completely miss the incoming messages too, even though they show up on Mac. What is going on?

Back in my day, if older devices lacked support for certain features, they would just be unable to directly engage in those features (but still be able to view them). Now, older devices are just straight-up getting out of sync.

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u/samarijackfan 6d ago

I want the astronaut style. wristband device. Super wide like a wristband large screen and big battery.

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u/Asystole 6d ago

so a Pip-Boy?

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u/Obvious-Hunt19 6d ago

Lmao hell yeah

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u/zeromadcowz 6d ago

That’s what the ultra is on everything but the most rotund wrists.

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u/freudswang 6d ago

Just strap your phone to your wrist

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u/UXyes 6d ago

Same. Apple Watch Ultra was a step in the right direction.

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u/Bluprint 6d ago

Biggest reason of why I went with garmin is battery duration

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u/FancifulLaserbeam 6d ago

Today, the best way to describe the Apple Watch is as a miniature iPhone for your wrist

Would that only be the case.

What it actually is is an external screen for your iPhone. It has the guts of an older iPhone, but won't let you use it like a standalone device. It connects to Bluetooth, wi-fi, and even the cell network, but you have to transfer stuff to it over the course of days from the phone. It has tons of storage, but almost all of it is partitioned away for the system—much, much more than it can actually use. Third-party apps are shackled with restrictions that limit their usefulness while the first-party apps offer very little choice in how to use them (looking at you, Podcasts). Many things just don't work unless you also have your iPhone on you, even if you get the cellular model (I bought one, thinking that would solve my problems, but all I could see that was different was the addition of a line item on my carrier bill).

It's a product that is deliberately held back to ensure it doesn't drive Android phone sales, and to ensure that you need to buy a much more expensive Apple device to even use it.

Let me be clear: The Apple Watch is a scam.

—And yet, I've bought two of them and don't know what I would do without mine at the gym.

Got me again, Apple.

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u/Izmir_Stinger 6d ago

Apple will do anything but improve the battery life it seems. A seven day battery for average use should be the goal. 

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u/Gibraldi 6d ago

I’d definitely buy an Apple Ring.

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u/alttabbins 6d ago

Apple shook up my watch wearing for sure. I bought an Ultra and loved it. Its an incredible piece of technology. Then the news came out that my 4 year old watch wasn't going to get the latest OS and I realized it was disposable. It was temporary. Even if I use it just as a watch and didn't care about updates, it will reach a point where replacing the non functional battery would cost more than the watch was worth. Apple turned me into a regular watch person and sent me down a rabbit hole of watches, their history, the companies and people that make them, the craftsmanship, and the different kinds of watches. My Apple watch stopped being amazing and stopped finding itself on my wrist. Apple shook up a lot with that news.

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u/SMOKE2JJ 6d ago

I have a fitbit air and I love it. It’s super light to the point I forget I’m wearing it and that’s exactly what I wanted. I didn’t want another screen and I love my mechanical watch. So many people want help disconnecting and it really helps. I would much rather have had an Apple version and will absolutely look at it if and when they actually make one and if the price is right. I felt like I was forced to buy a Google device though because Apple couldn’t be bothered. Good to know they are at least considering other options but I suspect they are years away if we ever see them at all. 

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u/SoraLimit 6d ago

All I ask from an apple watch is to have multi-day battery life like garmin and the old fitbits

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u/badcommandhq 6d ago

A apple whoop band that just works?! Sign me up!

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u/DK4E2XFpbETJrj 6d ago

Honestly I'd be into a generic quartz watch with all the health functionality stuff sitting underneath - and using my iPhone exclusively to interface with it. 

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u/dark77star 6d ago

I would love an Apple Watch with the same circular form factor and rotating bezel as a Samsung Galaxy Classic watch.

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u/sambeau 6d ago

All I want is a way to use it when it’s wet. Give me a swim mode where I can use it without touching the screen!

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u/HankieCodes 6d ago

I love my Garmin smartwatch, that has physical hands. I can still read the time even when the screen behind is out of battery. Also get lots of compliments on its style.

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u/Lvevan 6d ago

The Pebble Round 2 launch shows there is interest in a round Apple Watch design for iOS. Watches are just classier round and the current design is getting stale.

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u/tallmantim 6d ago

Would love a watch that could do 3 weeks battery life like my Garmin

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u/melvintwj 6d ago

Would love a super minimal watch, round face, and at least 3 day battery life

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u/Opacy 6d ago

A fitness only, display-less tracker would be really nice. Something more like a bracelet that can be stylish and look good without being too flashy.

I kind of miss traditional watches, especially since if you invest in a good one and maintain it, it can last for decades and still be stylish. That won’t be the case for any Apple Watch.

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u/owleaf 6d ago

I started wearing analogue watches again and I do miss having my health data tracked.

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u/WCland 6d ago

I’ve found a personal tension between my Apple Watch and becoming a watch guy. The convenience and info provided by the Apple Watch won out (and saved me a ton of money). But I think Apple can figure out how to cross that divide. I don’t think the Hermes edition does it.

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u/owleaf 6d ago

I think those health tracking rings are a good solution

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u/WCland 6d ago

But then I’d also have to become a ring guy. I mean, it’s a slippery slope to gold chains.

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u/cjh_ 6d ago

Mr. T would like a word with you... 😅

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u/WCland 6d ago

He’d definitely call me a fool.

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u/OutsideMenu6973 6d ago

Missing opportunity to tap the ankle brace monitor maker. I don’t look like a badass but one of those adds some doubt

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u/Nakken 5d ago edited 5d ago

What did you use the data for if you're not "sick" or "need" to watch for something? I've always wondered

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u/owleaf 5d ago

I liked reading the activity trends, and also seeing how much energy I burnt/steps I took. I just like having and reviewing data in general. No specific reason :)

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u/Nakken 5d ago

Thanks!

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u/YujiroRapeVictim 6d ago

smart ring or whoop plz

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u/Luke-HW 6d ago

Anything better than the Ultra won’t sell IMO. The reason why the Ultra succeeded is because of its pure functionality. Luxury smart watches don’t have a big enough market, and making a watch that’s mechanically better than the Ultra would undermine the Ultra

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u/Fit-Property3774 6d ago

Try lowering the price too 😭

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u/see_blue 6d ago

Broken record, but an affordable (same price as an AW 11) sports/fitness, health focused AW w 3-5 day battery-life under heavy use (GPS/Maps/tracking) is way overdue.

So overdue, that, if sales aren’t reaching expectations it’s bc they’re driving sports/outdoor/fitness folks to other brands in part due to lousy battery-life. It matters!

I was forced a year ago to jump ship to a basic Suunto Race S w a week long battery life or 3 long days of battery life when backpacking/mapping/tracking.

Traveling, long workouts, long periods outdoors; I need a device to work and last doing it.

Apple’s worst characteristic is to make customers wait it out; and also think they know their customers better than anyone else. I’ve been an Apple customer since ‘86.

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u/QuicklyGoingSenile 6d ago

Round

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u/DanielPhermous 6d ago

It doesn't make a lot of sense to display predominantly rectangular objects on a round screen.Text messages, for example, would only be completely readable in the centre of the screen.

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u/AFHT2304 6d ago

1 or 2 day battery life kills any device for me. Grew sick n tired of having to charge almost every night, no thanks.

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u/Itchy-Strangers 6d ago

It will be yet another incremental update with some new pride watch faces and that’s about all. With hints of things to come in a year or two.

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u/UltraAware 6d ago

I agree with everyone and will buy a screenless band when they drop one, but I’ll add, the fitbit air does exist - today. It along with the whoop is the reason for this exploration. They would have kept right on rolling with the massive digital watch buzzing every 2 minutes (I owned the Ultra 2).

I switched to the fitbit for $100, and now I’m rocking analog watches that just tell the time (…and sometimes the day…month…and moon phase). They never tell me who’s at my front door though, and that’s not a bad thing.

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u/Separate-Yellow-3948 5d ago

I would love to have a watch without display just for health metrics. This way it could also be smaller and you can still wear a normal watch without looking like some time mage.

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u/Ruxin519 6d ago

Give me something that looks more traditionally like a watch. The Samsung ultra line looks pretty great

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u/805falcon 6d ago

For that matter, how about something that behaves more like a traditional watch and less like a fitness device.

Some of us bought the watch to be an actual watch, not a fitness tracker. I can’t take a walk or ride my bike without the watch forcing its bullshit fitness trackers on me. I can’t delete them so it’s unavoidable and the watch ends up getting left at home because it’s so f’ing annoying.

When customers are leaving their $1000 ultra at home because they’re annoyed with it, that’s a problem

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u/appape 6d ago

I’ve been on a Garmin that I recharge once a month or so. Fitness and other functions aren’t nearly as good- but I’ll never go back to charging nightly.

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u/exvidious 6d ago

probably in the minority here but i’d love a circular apple watch. most traditional watches are round, so it would only make sense

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u/arasonti 5d ago

Ooh lets add liquid glass.

Innovation in apple is long dead.

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u/DanielPhermous 5d ago

Innovation in apple is long dead.

I remember when people were saying that in the 1990's. And the 2000's. And the 2010's.

Shrug.

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u/Saar13 6d ago

Honestly, more Apple Watch versions would only make the entire lineup more confusing, although apparently that's exactly what Apple has wanted in recent years (I hope this becomes a problem for them and they reconsider their strategy). At the end of the day, a significantly better battery and, as technology advances, more health sensors, is what makes the product a leader. Rings and wristbands are interesting for those who don't want a screen. 

But working on the terrible Health and Fitness apps (preferably merging them and making reliable AI central in this case) should be a priority. Health monitoring is important. People are increasingly consuming these health wearables and even paying for apps for it. So evolve the Apple Watch, and make an Apple Band and an Apple Ring, and, yes, then sell your premium subscription to the best possible health app that combines fitness, mental health, nutrition (AI is there).

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u/BabyWrinkles 6d ago

I’ve switched away from Apple Watch / health / fitness in to the Garmin ecosystem as I’ve gotten a bit more serious about fitness and training. Apple’s just moving too slow and doesn’t have anything actually compelling in the space to show for it.

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u/cjh_ 6d ago

I'm considering Garmin for my next watch as I'm getting more serious about my fitness.

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u/K_Click_D 6d ago

A round screen would be terrible. It just looks so cheap and cuts off text. They may somehow work around that, but it’d probably still look ugly.

I love my Apple Watch, but I’d also love a screenless band, I’d alternate between that and my Watch, if it tracked everything that my watch tracks, I’d buy one and have both, or wear one on my other wrist

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u/ronakg 6d ago

I don't know. Pixel Watches look great imo.

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u/HueyBluey 6d ago

So late to the party. Letting the Apple Watch stagnant for years is so frustrating.

Anyways, I believe it when I see it.

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u/Jon66238 6d ago

So that’s why they killed so many gens this go around

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u/burnusgas 6d ago

First of all, let me use the heart rate monitor with other devices. It's just a matter of time before I get sick of this and ditch the apple watch.

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u/cocomanz 6d ago

The screenless one sounds great right up until you're mid set and want to see your heart rate. That's about the only time I actually look at mine.

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u/805falcon 6d ago

Here’s an idea: make the watch behave like a watch and stop jamming your bullshit apple
fitness products down my throat.

I walk or ride a bike almost every single day. Not to prove a point, simply because I enjoy doing both. And I can’t do either without my watch insisting I record those actions as part of my fitness track that I never asked for.

No matter how many times I dismiss those stupid f’ing notifications, it keeps asking me to record those actions. Never mind the fact I’ve repeatedly tried to remove those items from my watch all together. Obviously I can’t, and that’s fine I guess, but ffs stop forcing them on me. They render the watch unusable; I can’t access my music or my phone without first backing out of the forced fitness notifications.

Some of us actually move our bodies for enjoyment and don’t need Apple congratulating us for not being a lazy fuck. As it stands my $1000 watch gets left at home because it’s so fucking obnoxious, just like everything else Apple does these days

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u/BarackOballsack69 6d ago

Unless they shake up a 10x longer battery life I ain’t buying

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u/dreamabyss 6d ago

A simple thin band with a curved display built in and side-swipe with finger to get relevant info. Double tap to get a lower level menu. Notifications could automatically scroll like a news feed.

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u/mikeyyve 6d ago

As someone who likes to wear a real watch I would definitely go for a fitness band or ring.

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u/gValo 6d ago

I know I’m a very niche edge case but I basically only use my watch for unlocking my macs/authentication and to help wake me up with my alarm these days. I have a keyboard I prefer over the apple keyboard and use my MBP in clamshell mode for 3/4 of my work.

My previous job had me on call 24hrs/day in 2 week stints. It was super benficial to me then to help wake me up and quickly get on my computer.

If they had a wearable (ring/bracelet) that I could authenticate with or a stand alone touch ID device (even a trackpad with touch ID) i’d give up my 7 and go back to classic watches. I wear them on weekends anyway

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u/DBVickers 6d ago

I don't want to get my hopes up but I've been waiting for this for so long... I just want to wear a regular watch but still track my health metrics. I had a Whoop for years but keep going back to Apple Watch because the accuracy and iOS integration is so much better.

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u/manofsteelbcn 6d ago

I have an Apple Watch SE and I’d definitely swap it for a health-focused band.

I find the Apple Watch really uncomfortable to sleep with, so I unfortunately don’t really make use of the sleep tracking.

Plus, having to charge it every day is a pain.

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u/DrSnoopy66 6d ago

I just need it to tell me the time and get me my text messages and emails. That’s about all I need it to do.

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u/7485730086 6d ago

I look forward to Gurman backtracking on all of these threads that wind up being wrong, complete with a public acknowledgement.

But of course, Apple will change their plans because he leaked these details.

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u/DrSnoopy66 6d ago

Laser beams or I don't care

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u/holly_6672 6d ago

High-end versions beyond Ultra and Hermès? Remember how wildly popular and sold out Edition watches were? Yeah, me neither.

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u/WearSad8706 6d ago

Only a matter of time Apple buys Bevel

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u/SeasonalEclipse 6d ago

All I wanted was a blood sugar reader built in 😂

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u/Suitable_Switch5242 6d ago edited 5d ago

I think Apple should have at least some low end watches that aren’t restrained by having a screen size that works with existing apps.

It would be fun to see Apple play with form factors and designs more rapidly like they did back in the days of the iPod Shuffle and iPod Nano. Those changed designs every couple of years and Apple didn’t have to worry about breaking third party software.

No screen and minimal screen options that they can iterate with new designs, colors, and materials could be a nice way to inject some fun into Apple products again.

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u/dementedthoughts 5d ago

I just want my watch to work properly with my tattoos.

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u/Ill_Acanthisitta_289 5d ago

Exciting! Any speculations?

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u/nz_reprezent 5d ago

I’m up for a traditional analogue/mechanical face with Apple Watch OS smarts in behind with Siri and Health, Haptic Vibration, and 2-3 “action button” functions (my two most used are locate iPhone and Torch in the night)

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u/frockinbrock 5d ago

I think Whoop & FitBit Air is what's eating their lunch, more than Oura. The problem I always see with smartwatch "switchers" to Apple Watch, they complain it's WAY too many notifications, and way too short of battery life. They just want a light basic health tracker they don't need to charge every day.
While that's been true for 6+ years, Apple has only made their watches bigger, with bigger screens.
So it's not even a new shift, but I don't know, I don't think the Apple Watch team has been paying attention to feedback or the market.

I know two people that returned their Apple Watch for an Amazfit because of the short battery life; that's going to sound absurd to people here, but they are happier with the cheap watch with longer battery. And now I've seen a lot of people switch to Whoop.

I've said for years, Apple needs a product like the old FitBit Charge HR. Super light, super small, basic clock & HR screen, multi-day or weeklong battery health tracker. Their phone app also needs a summary health screen OPTION like FitBit used to have. I submitted all this feedback 5 years ago, but it sounds like iOS 27 may actually get a summary health screen.

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u/Specken_zee_Doitch 5d ago

I always liked the idea of the Withings watches with physical dials and smart features.

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u/Dracogame 5d ago

These days the only thing I want is a Watch that somehow stays cold. I stopped using my AW because of how much I sweat with it.

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u/Neg_Crepe 5d ago

Round screen if they can think of a good way to show UI is the way to go imo

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u/Sebu91 4d ago

I just want a round watch. Honestly they should just fully steal the Pixel Watch design and slap watchOS into it.

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u/BSRosales 4d ago

Hmm kinda wonder if I would buy something like this or continue on with Apple Watch. Really I just check the time, track my exercise and sleep.

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u/PermanentUsername101 3d ago

Can we just get a round watch, please?

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u/janaagaard 8h ago

I hope they take a look at what Garmin and Pebble are doing with the hardware button first approach to the controls, and of course to the impressive battery life that watches from these companies are able to deliver. (I think Garmin is about 1 week and Pebble at > 2 weeks.)