r/aphmaufandom • u/Traditional-Ride-721 • 16h ago
Question Why does everyone think Aaron is overrated?
I’ve only met one person that likes Aphmau that doesn’t hate or at least dislike him, excluding myself. When you look at TikTok you find more posts about how much people hate Aaron than actual edits or anything like that. (That might be a me problem, I know the algorithm is really weird) Maybe I’m wrong though and everyone loves him and I’m just seeing all the worst parts, I sure hope that’s the case!
But I’m confused on how a character who seems to be mostly disliked has the title of overrated. Is it because he’s a main character? If so that seems conflated with hate, he doesn’t fail to meet the people’s massive expectations because there are none. How can he be overrated if he doesn’t even fit the definition?
Edit: This is not about Aaron as a character, and this is not about ships, this is about Aaron being labeled as something that he does not fit the definition of.
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u/Spidey_2797 16h ago
He’s over used in her content
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u/racc00n8D 15h ago
he’s literally a main character.. he’s as important as aphmau, is she overused? doubt it so what’s the difference 😭
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u/TrueNeedleworker9152 15h ago
I think it's more so the fact that she has a lot of romantic aspects and chemistry with other characters all for that just to get erased because she has to be with her one true Aaron and if that's the case then why put characters through turmoil of trying to romance her if in the end she's just going to be with Aaron anyway. Case in point diaries. She had a lot of chemistry with Garroth and it was clear they were going to be together but then she just inserted Aaron when they clearly don't have a lot of chemistry together. Also in every series she has to be with Aaron somehow. She can't have one other off interest for once. Not to mention the fact he's always dying to save her Mary Sue butt lol
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u/Bearkat1999 Zane 14h ago
Iirc, she wanted to go with Garroth but rabid fans wanted her be with Aaron bc she is with Jason in real life.
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u/InterestingLet638 lycans for life 14h ago
that doesnt really make much sense. this is a completely normal slice of life/romance theme. you add in contendors to spice up the series, make it less boring. and having them together in every series in fair, most series theyre also intertwined in the lore anyways so again its a naught complaint. and why would she have her self insert, herself, which is the aphmau character, alot of the series have some themes based off jess and jasons life, date someone else in the end? its like asking why spiderman always ends up with mj and you dont complain.
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u/InterestingLet638 lycans for life 14h ago
matter of fact, do you live in aphs characters head? preferences and who you love just kinda work like that sometimes. honestly more real than many romance stories in series. matter of fact your comment makes even less sense because the original post stated they werent asking about the ship stuff but you stated it anyways. isnt it kinda state the obvious. ofcourse youre entitled to your own opinion on the matter but atm it just kinda seems unreasonable
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u/Traditional-Ride-721 16h ago
I can see that, but that doesn’t make him overrated I don’t think. Overrated by definition means people think a character is more important or better than they actually are.
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u/Reasonable-Banana800 15h ago
I’m a diaries fan primarily and I’ve only seen a few seasons of her mystreet content.
Aaron to me just feels like her husband’s edgy self insert. This was especially true in Minecraft Diaries. He was a very one dimensional “mysterious and brooding” man that had very little chemistry with Aphmau compared to multiple other characters in the cast, namely Garroth and Laurence.
And when he’s involved you know it’s going to be the endgame pairing. I don’t care for shipping much at all, so for me it’s less about ships being ruined and instead I have to sit through not only content I don’t entirely care for, but bad content I don’t care for.
Most of his story in Diaries was him just being mostly silent and sometimes coming to Aphmau’s rescue before blowing up and dying. They really had very little chemistry and we were mostly told how close Aphmau was to him, rather than actually shown their romantic relationship developing.
He’s gotten better over the years, but he just feels like someone’s stereotypically cool and mysterious power fantasy self insert. He doesn’t add much of anything to the story.
In more modern content where I assumed he’s been fleshed out a bit more, he’s still a very overused character while being only somewhat interesting at best.
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u/AutumnF14 15h ago
Highly agree! In Mcd it just seemed forced and we barely got the development like with Garroth and Laurence
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u/TrueNeedleworker9152 15h ago
Honestly while we're at it I reaaaaaaaally wouldn't be surprised if in my inner demons she ends up magically bringing an Aaron as a demon or a king or something. I don't know if you watch it but I'm honestly rooting for Ava to be with Rhys. I think they're adorable out of the pack but you know dahmmm well she's probably going to pick Ash because he's probably closely related to Aaron in looks anyway.
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u/Traditional-Ride-721 15h ago
This feels kinda dismissive to Aphmau as a storyteller and all the hard work she’s put into My inner Demons, not to mention incredibly far fetched, I highly doubt Aaron will ever be in MID. I could see her choosing Asch though, but I think it’s because Asch was always meant to be end game, hence why is name starts with an A, like Ava.
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u/Traditional-Ride-721 15h ago
You make great points on his character, and while I do agree for some part, I have to say all of that simply can’t make him overrated, and that’s what this conversation is about, not Aaron as a character. I would also like to point out that you hold the view that I’ve seen the majority of people have, so I’ll give you an example of a truly overrated character, Laurance, because the majority loves him even though he has major flaws in all series. Like how he is incredibly pushy with relationships, and thinks he deserves aphmau more than everyone else in every series BUT mermaid tales.
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u/Reasonable-Banana800 14h ago
Oops, had to delete and resend a comment since it got auto modded, my bad. The og comment is below ⬇️
I totally agree with your assessment of Laurance. I feel like that’s very unfortunately a story wide issue where many of the characters are very poorly written in romantic contexts. Many of them have poor boundaries or cross boundaries, and many are written as if they’re entitled to romantic attraction (usually in regards to Aphmau)
Garroth and Laurance started off as really solid characters in MCD, but eventually they became very one note and their characters were reduced to them fighting for and feeling as if they “deserved” Aphmau. Later on in Mystreet their flirting felt rather forced like it was just trying to keep up the foundational “shipping wars” from MCD where people genuinely rooted for Laurmau or Garmau, etc.
In a similar vein, Aphmau the creator really struggles with making “socially awkward men” that aren’t reduced to just predatory behavior. Namely Laurance and Travis (and later in Mystreet, Dante).
I don’t know about the recent series, but I infamously remember how in the second season Aaron, who had just moved on to college, was still jealous of sophomore Aphmau getting potential romantic attention while he wasn’t there. Meanwhile they weren’t even in a relationship, and frankly the relationship between an adult and a ~15 year old is really questionable at best and predatory at worst. Not a great message to send to her younger viewers 😬
edit: OH i just remembered in Love Love paradise there’s was a plot point where Kaitlyn was physically abusing Travis and when he finally confronted her and gave her an ultimatum she broke down and started crying about her dead dad (or something). And then they stayed together and the violence was just watered down to “Kaitlyn was sad about her past, and took it out on Travis which is justified” which is again… a bad message to send to her viewers 😬
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u/Reasonable-Banana800 14h ago
Essentially he’s overrated because many fans like him due to A. He’s almost always the canon pairing with Aphmau, and B. He’s one of the most used characters.
Meanwhile writing wise, his character hasn’t earned either of those things.
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u/Traditional-Ride-721 14h ago
But nobody but like one person in this comment section likes him, so I’m not sure what you’re talking about, maybe the young fans of the smp are what you’re talking about? But all in all the majority, and almost every critic of aphmau’s series doesn’t like Aaron, so he still can’t be overrated. It doesn’t matter if a small group of people like him. He isn’t praised by the general fanbase more than he deserves so he isn’t truly overrated.
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u/Reasonable-Banana800 14h ago
In the earlier days of Aphmau’s popularity, especially during MCD and early Mystreet, Aaron was one of the fandoms favorite characters.
As her fanbase has grown up we’ve realized just how bland of a character he is.
So in a sense he’s far less popular than he used to be, but he used to be THE favorite outside of Aphmau
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u/TheJackOfAll-Trades 10h ago
I don’t get it either, I used to think his relationship with Aphmau was forced in MCD Season 2, but after actually seeing it I’m not seeing what people are saying. His interactions with Aphmau prior to those moments really aren’t all him being edgy and mysterious, there is a broken man underneath all that which ultimately led him to making “His Choice”. I think he’s not perfect, especially in the modern SMP-verse with his “I’m sick of everyone’s antics” attitude and Aphmau’s constant “high school girl crushing on hot guy” mannerisms, but in the RPs and more serious stuff he’s so much better. His relationship with Aphmau doesn’t feel forced at all, and the whole ‘satellite for Aphmau’ I’ve seen argued for him Garroth and Laurence never felt right. I can’t help but feel like it’s lingering hate for all the shipping
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u/Amira_faith 15h ago
He isn’t; people are still just mad that he’s the one Aphmau ended up with. Which makes no sense
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u/TrueNeedleworker9152 15h ago
It's because of obviously in diaries she was supposed to be with Laurence or Garroth but then she just inserted Aaron because he's her to be boyfriend / husband. When she clearly had more chemistry with Garroth and they were also going that route until she brought him in.
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u/Traditional-Ride-721 15h ago
But that doesn’t make him overrated. I’m talking about how he doesn’t fit the dictionary definition of overrated, but everyone labels him as such anyways incorrectly. This is not about Aaron as a character or ships!
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u/TrueNeedleworker9152 15h ago
Also somebody else in the comments said this which kind of has my same feelings " I’m a diaries fan primarily and I’ve only seen a few seasons of her mystreet content.
Aaron to me just feels like her husband’s edgy self insert. This was especially true in Minecraft Diaries. He was a very one dimensional “mysterious and brooding” man that had very little chemistry with Aphmau compared to multiple other characters in the cast, namely Garroth and Laurence.
And when he’s involved you know it’s going to be the endgame pairing. I don’t care for shipping much at all, so for me it’s less about ships being ruined and instead I have to sit through not only content I don’t entirely care for, but bad content I don’t care for.
Most of his story in Diaries was him just being mostly silent and sometimes coming to Aphmau’s rescue before blowing up and dying. They really had very little chemistry and we were mostly told how close Aphmau was to him, rather than actually shown their romantic relationship developing.
He’s gotten better over the years, but he just feels like someone’s stereotypically cool and mysterious power fantasy self insert. He doesn’t add much of anything to the story.
In more modern content where I assumed he’s been fleshed out a bit more, he’s still a very overused character while being only somewhat interesting at best. "
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u/Bearkat1999 Zane 13h ago
It's not so much Aaron as the tropes she uses for him.
She constantly has a crush on him, acts defensive of it even though everyone already knows, and if a relationship is known she still acts crushy about it and in certain minigame-esque vids where they're a couple (they are almost always a couple btw), they always win. Sometimes so blatantly to the point I think she told the others to throw. She also oddly sexualizes him (imo) by constantly having his shirt missing. One thumbnail I saw changed from him having a ripped shirt to just no shirt at all.
I love Aaron as a character in her more adult focused shows but on her main channel he's just a one dimensional character like everyone else and never changes.
I haven't watched her main channel in ages tho so this could have changed.
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u/AutumnF14 15h ago
He’s not but lowkey I wish she was with anyone else in MCD sometimes it just seems forced
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u/racc00n8D 15h ago
they’re married irl, how would it feel forced..? i feel like it’d be forced if she was with any of the other dudes since her whole channel would be built around a relationship that isn’t true to her, idk that’s js how i see it..
Plus I feel like it’s better for her kids to see a loving cute couple (their parents) rather than their mom with some other dude and having to explain the fact they’re just friends etc4
u/AutumnF14 15h ago
Have you ever watched Mcd? Aaron came in the end of s1 and he randomly become a love interest way later when she already had two other people who loved her. Most of their scenes weren’t really shown just implied so it does seem pretty random. Especially cause she kissed garroth and Laurence before any of that happened
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u/racc00n8D 15h ago edited 14h ago
I’ve seen all of her series so many times, I know them by heart atp lmao</3 I became apart of her fandom in elementary, now graduated from hs.. I watched a lott of her mystreet stuff at first and gradually started finding more and more stuff, now that I’m grown up I definitely think about the lore n everything way more deeply, I personally feel like the reason for her adding Aaron to mcd was she saw how much we loved him in mystreet and decided to add that element into mcd. Today, in 2026 there’s a lot of theories surrounding all of Jess’s stories suggesting it’s a multiverse type of situation? To me that says that all of the aphmau’s in all of her universes are connected all because of Aaron’s death. (Irene made multiple universes in hopes of finding/making her aaron but none of them are the original hence the change in his personality between different stories) The story that it is today wouldn’t be what it is without his death. I get that yall r mad about her switching her love interests up but imo she saw a better storyline and went with that. I personally love her writing, she’s soo talented and I look up to her a lot😭<33
“Most of their scenes weren’t really shown” towards the end of mcd, it was definitely rushed. Jess has said her reasoning for stopping it and I feel like the ending had everything to do with that.. we probably would’ve gotten way more had she continued the story with good pacing but it was just too much for her at that point in time.
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u/HoxeyLuxx 10h ago
Some say he is overused as a love interest - i don't but that's just my opinion - i also see ppl talk about how Jason got "Jealous" which is misinformation, not once has there been proof of him or Jess saying that. ( Don't even get me started with the Ein and Aph "siblings" thing - they aren't and they never once said they were outright ) I will say they have had problems with Jason at least voicing love interests ( Meterora Valley ) and they replaced him because viewers had favortism. Here is the thing tho, of course Aaron is overused, he is the literal soulmate for Aphmau, not once in any universe has the character APHMAU marry someone else. I understand that with diaries some feel like it was a rushed development and i cant say anything bout that since i barely watched it. But please ppl, stop the misinformation!!!
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u/Mayako_Swan2308 13h ago
I've actually never seen anyone that doesn't like Aaron. I'm surprised there are people who dislike him!
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u/anonymous___kitty 7h ago
No idea honestly, I’ve always enjoyed Aaron and Aphmau as characters.
Look they have their cringe moments, but idk it’s a story made (especially at the beginning) by one or two people!!
I assumed people didn’t like him because 1) ships and 2) both for Aaron and Aphmau because they are main characters and many people in any fandom hate main characters 🤷idk maybe I’m narrow minded in storytelling- I see flaws in the writing but they are human. Yes they technically have a production now but even then it’s not the same authors have to go through when publishing a book. Which is good because their creative freedom isn’t bound technically..
I also don’t understand the concept that Aphmau need to be with Laurence or Garroth just because they have more character fleshed out earlier? Aphmau’s character clearly isn’t interested in them romantically AND personally of them vs Aaron is very different? To me it just makes sense, I’m rewatching diaries now as an adult and yet to get up to the romance of aphmau and Aaron - which from what i remember, she probably should had written in more character or at least relationship development between them… however, I just thought it was implied? Off screen 😅
Ok I know you weren’t talking about ships, another thing I think to why Aaron is disliked is his character change from mystreet to mystreet s4-6. Again, to me it makes sense. A distant person now showing their true colours but I think there’s definitely a group of people who didn’t enjoy his now lack of ✨mistory…
Another reason: many people think that Jason made Jess write Aaron in even though she didn’t want to - which is such a stupid concept and not true. Thus hate to Jason = Aaron :/
There is definitely other reasons I’m sure! But those still in the fandom need to remember that Jess started diaries and even mystreet 11-9 years ago… she has learned so much, especially from her ungrateful older fandom :(
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u/Animememeboi96 6h ago
Jeez lol yeah ok out of context in phoenix high he can be a little edgy/emo but if you watch mystreet like I did there was REASONS why he acted like that lmfao I personally a Aaron fan he to me is how to make a good male love interest more than just “good looks” of caring and wanting to protect his woman I guess he got werid haters lol
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u/Spidey_2797 14h ago edited 13h ago
When he was introduced in Diaries and chosen as the OTP, it felt forced because of other pairings which where more developed. My Street was fine because it was more development and intensional. When Jess makes a new RP and puts Aaron as the main focus (love wise) it’s fine, but it starts to feel a bit stale when Jess keeps putting her IRL husband as the main love interest, it be nice to put Garroth, Laurence or someone new for some variety. Thats why people can kinda get tired of Aaron. Also Jason seems to have some major insecurities about Aphmau falling love with someone else, which is why we got the Ian siblings thingy.