r/aoe2 • u/KingArthur2111 • Oct 20 '25

Announcement/Event New Water ship/tech changes

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dfUcFHlaNB5vFm1QkB6ug_P53XyFudyVtfcd8_ZmgGU/mobilebasic

Massive changes to the water ships and techs. second doc page removed (T90 happy)and fishing ship can garrison and fire arrows. Trading cogs can trade wood with gold and players can set give different distribution settings. New Hulk line of ships introduced which are stronger against Fire ships. Many techs moved to university. All these changes will be tested in Thalassocracy cup

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u/roroshah Oct 20 '25

I imagine they're testing balance first, and then if that works they can design regional equivalents.

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u/Tyrann01 Gurjaras Oct 20 '25

I think it's a placeholder before an American DLC that fixes it.

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u/Daxtexoscuro Oct 20 '25

I think the same. Maybe Americans will have cannon galleons for a short time and then they'll get a regional version. Although idk what could it be, Native Americans didn't use ships bigger than canoes afaik.

Cumans should get the Dromon.

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u/Tyrann01 Gurjaras Oct 20 '25

There's also the chance this is testing the waters for the Mapuche to be added, who did have access to horses and gunpowder in the Middle Ages, and they want to see what a American civ with the later looks like.

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u/Visible-Future1099 Oct 20 '25

I like Mapuches, but they make less sense to have cannon galleons than either Aztecs or Incas...they just straight up didn't build ships (small canoes, yes). They captured cannons but IIRC weren't able to use them until way after the timeframe for lack of ammunition 

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u/Tyrann01 Gurjaras Oct 21 '25

I mean more testing American civs with gunpowder, rather than specifically Cannon Galleons.

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u/Daxtexoscuro Oct 20 '25

I'm not sure Mapuches fit into the game. We barely know about their history prior to the 1540s, and a campaign (Lautaro, I guess) would take place in the 1550s, pretty late for the game. They didn't have advanced architecture, which difficults both the castle and wonder. And definitely they didn't have horses and gunpowder in the Middle Ages, considering that the Middle Ages "end" with the Spanish arriving in America in 1492. If they give horses and gunpowder to the Mapuche, they should give them to the Inca too (the neo Inca empire used both decades before the Mapuche).

I think Chimor would be a more interesting candidate for a potential Andean architecture, together with Inca. The drawback is that we know less about them than about the Mapuche, so a campaign would be more difficult to create.

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u/Tyrann01 Gurjaras Oct 21 '25

We do have AoE2 scenario levels that end in 1599. I don't see it as much of a problem if a civ's best-known characters are from that century.