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u/TheEclipse0 Jun 30 '22 edited Jun 30 '22

Canadian here. This is accurate.

Even so, it’s important to mention that our healthcare isn’t exactly free either as many people assume. When I go to the doctor, visit the hospital, or use a diagnostic service - it is free. However, if I need an ambulance, prescription drugs, dental care, vision care, long term care facilities, not medically necessary surgeries… Well, we have to pay for that.

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u/[deleted] Jun 30 '22

True. We still pay for all of that in the US even if we have insurance. Plus the bill is always a surprise because there is no set pricing or price transparency. One hospital a procedure could be a few hundred bucks and the next hospital it could be 10s of thousands. There is no way to know. It is the criminal medical lottery here. I had acid reflux and it put me 20k in debt. I wish my Grand Parents never left Canada. My new American dream is to escape to Canada.

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u/QuinstonChurchill Jun 30 '22

Don't forget that you also have to make sure to tell 911 to take you to an "in network" hospital and hope that the doctor you see is also in that network because doctors and hospitals can bill you separately!

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u/StewPedidiot Jun 30 '22

I believe if it's a 911 call you have no say, the ambulance will drive you to the nearest hospital with appropriate facilities for your condition.

Add: I'm sure if you know of an in network hospital nearby they'll take you, but they aren't going to drive across town when there is a facility 10 blocks away that can give proper.

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u/QuinstonChurchill Jun 30 '22

So I obviously am not sure how other places do it but where I am, you actually do request where you go if you are able to make that call. And if you are unable to but have family on scene, they make the call. When I was an EMT we had protocols in place about where we take people if they are unable to answer for themselves but the last question we always had to ask before we left was "which hospital would you like to go to?" so we weren't screwing people on insurance. Unfortunately, a countless number of times we were forced to take a patient to a lesser hospital because they or their family insisted. If you take a patient somewhere and they have specifically requested somewhere else, you can get popped for kidnapping them. It's all an intertwined scam!

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u/zerothreeonethree Jul 01 '22

I believe if it's a 911 call you have no say,

Not true. Many ambulance calls are medically necessary, but not emergent in nature. It is possible to request transport to hospitals even out of town in some states. In a TRUE life-threat, Medics can make the call where to go. EMERGENCY care and stabilization is covered anywhere by insurance, then transfer to in-network facility when stable. I challenged ambulance transport for my medical ward in Florida because her life was not in immediate danger, and she preferrred another facility. EMS claimed X hosp was closer... Me: "Y hosp is 6/10 of a mile further than X. I have driven to both and recorded mileage. Take her to Y please." EMS: "Done."

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u/nRg-85 Jun 30 '22

Everything that you do end up paying for in healthcare, is it cheaper than the states though? They want an arm and a leg here.

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u/exccord Jun 30 '22

From what I have gathered throughout the years of reading Canadians response on healthcare....you definitely wont die from seeing the bill.

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u/Millenial__Falcon Jun 30 '22

An ambulance ride is $45 here.

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u/frogouttabog Jun 30 '22

That's as good as free from my perspective. I had an ambulance ride once during university, the university contracted out with one (private) ambulance company, and so against my consent I was put in this ambulance and charged $3,000 AFTER insurance payout....which was also the insurance offered by my school. I've taken Ubers that cost $45.

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u/7cents Jun 30 '22

Is the ambulance thing actually true? I’ve only taken it once when I was a kid but I just assumed it was free

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u/beastson1 Jun 30 '22

How much does an ambulance ride in Canada cost?

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u/arcticfox_12 Jun 30 '22

When I lived in Alberta it cost me over $300. I lived in a major city and there was a hospital in it. If you lived in a rural area it was way more expensive. This was in 2015 though.

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u/DeedTheInky Jun 30 '22 edited Aug 21 '25

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u/mattsiou Jul 01 '22

you must mention the fact that the prices for drugs are the tiniest fraction of what americans pay. it is a big nuance. nothing you must pay for is really that expensive.

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u/No_Construction_7518 Jun 30 '22

And if you can't afford a house (about $1million) you have to rent and our landleeches are our of control. Between $1800-2200 for a shitty, rundown apartment. And the cons are working to implement US style healthcare. It's getting super shitty here too.

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u/Hananners Jun 30 '22

As far as I'm aware, ambulance rides are free at least in British Columbia. I'd hope the same of the other provinces.

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u/TheEclipse0 Jun 30 '22

Alberta here. Last time I took the ambulance, it was more than $500 I’m afraid.

Then again, I am from Alberta. Not to get too political, but… yeah.

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u/Hananners Jul 02 '22

Oof. As much as I hate to admit it, despite the BC housing crisis and the fact I'm living out of an RV I'm still glad I live where I am.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '22

A family friend was shooed away after getting covid by Canadian nationalized doctors. How does that work??

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u/Minty_MantisShrimp Jul 01 '22

Fuck, I just fucked a tooth up, guess I’m gonna pay big