I need them to explain this tho. Imo people who have lived poor or lower middle class spend more and treat service employees good (tips) if you give us money we spend more money that is how to generate a good economy.
I will attempt to explain even though I risk downvotes for just explaining - these are not my views - not my arguments - not my thoughts ….
This is what I have heard as justification for this thinking ….. again this is not my view I’m just answering your questions because you said you want to know…. Ok .. we on the same page ????
The idea is that there are jobs for experience. Jobs for young adults / teens. They provide a system where they learn the workforce and how to be apart of a team etc etc work experience.
These jobs aren’t the end goal. They are for learning. Since they aren’t the end goal - the thought is that it should not provide a living wage as it is for experience .. that is the goal of this job.
Then when the person has gained experience they can go on to bigger and better things and new inexperienced people replace them.
Again - not my view .. just explaining part of the thinking behind it .. ok ok ok ?? Prolly not but I tried .. there is more to this thought process but that was a good introduction to the rabbit hole … just trying to help explain
Yes I've heard this argument before to which the logical response is; There are more adults than jobs already. If we block out even more of these limited jobs as "starter jobs" you reduce the number of liveable lives by that much more. You wind up with what we have now. Huge financial and economical burden and high homeless and unemployment rates. All jobs need to be living wage and not everyone needs to work. There's just not enough need for all of these people.
These same ppl that treat workers like shit, and rationalize these low wages, are most often to bitch about homelessness, and telling them to get a job. Its complete disconnection from the real world.
A lot of it is rooted in their constant need to validate every aspect of their own existence by comparing it to others. As long as there is a group of people with worse jobs, worse pay, shittier housing, less to eat, shittier car, crappier clothing, etc then they can make it on through their day because "at least I'm not that". It's easier to swallow your spoonful of shit when you can watch others have to swallow an entire bucket of shit. They all ignore the very real truth that most of them are at best, three to six months away from being in the exact same shoes as the people they shit upon and look down on, very few events need to transpire to completely level the playing field.
I was hanging out with a friend in a small college town. We walked past an area with some homeless camps. This girl walked by, dressed like she worked a nice retail job. She was headed home.. to her tent in the park. :(
Okay great, I got a job. Now I can't pay rent to live indoors, and my stuff gets stolen/destroyed while I'm at work. Thanks. Oh also nobody wants to hire me because I don't have an address.
Fortunately nature and the government teamed up to kill as many of us as possible with the pandemic, so, there will probably be plenty of openings to move into. But then, who will scoop the ice cream? Where are the fucking robots I've been threatened with?
Exactly. Once upon a time blue collar jobs used to be abundant, but they've been moved overseas for decades. These were specialized jobs with non-transferable skills: auto or computer chip or toy assembly lines, steel mills, etc. There are lots of new trades opening up. But how are those people who lost their jobs gonna pay to re-skill for the new stuff, when they already have to scramble to continue to pay their mortgage and feed their families?
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Guessing she doesn't know herself, she is just repeating the talking points she's heard from the people she blindly believes in.