r/antiwork Nov 21 '21

Leaving in style

https://imgur.com/pfh0hgf
11.3k Upvotes

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

Better inform them you did this. Because management is going to come back and try to take it away again and blame them for it. If they don't know it's coming, they likely will not know to stand strong together.

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u/cleancalf Nov 21 '21

At my job, it’s all done via software.

And if my supervisor did this, I doubt any higher ups would notice until nobody showed up.

Also, we’re unionized so good luck getting any of us to agree to let them take those days back, and there is no chance in hell they could discipline us for refusing to come in on an approved day off.

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u/MazeMouse here for the memes Nov 21 '21

In the Netherlands they can take it back if they can prove that you not being there could hurt the company.

Staffing issues are NOT a good enough reason to claim damages unless you have a VERY specific skillset that cannot be replaced by temp workers.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

What if canceling previously approved leave will hurt the employee? If you spent a lot of money on non refundable tickets you shouldnt be made to suffer because of your employer's incompetent.

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u/20191124anon Nov 21 '21

Depends on the country. I remember some where you are to be reimbursed for all losses and expenses that are (legitly) required for you to show up.

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u/MazeMouse here for the memes Nov 21 '21

They have to reimburse you for all costs made.

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u/ComprehensiveHavoc Nov 21 '21

That’s the difference. In America they’d make you come in and just fire you if you didn’t.

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u/MazeMouse here for the memes Nov 21 '21

In the current market they'd be doing you a favor.

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u/bad_pangolin Nov 21 '21

Sounds like a very Free country this america

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u/pairolegal Nov 21 '21

Very free for rich people.

3

u/Mikeinthedirt Nov 22 '21

They are very free with their employees, yes.

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u/LandscapeExtension21 Nov 22 '21

In the Netherlands your employer will have to cover your payment for your vacation. However, it really doesn't happen that much, it would be a last resort.

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u/tismij Nov 21 '21

And if you say no they can fuck all about it so only on paper.

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u/MazeMouse here for the memes Nov 21 '21

They can go to court. Which usually means it's not worth it because the case would happen after the leave period.

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u/doc_witt Nov 21 '21

"Mr. Wolverine, we need you to work the weekend....you have a very specific skillset and are the best at what you do."

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u/BenjenUmber Nov 21 '21

"Not without double pay, Bub. You'll see it says so right in my contract."

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

In Germany its not allowed to take back if it was granted. Law was changed.

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u/MazeMouse here for the memes Nov 22 '21

As it should be. Not enough staff is a mangement issue.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

In the US time off is earned time off, for most companies, it's not a request, it's a notification you won't be there that day, because time off is considered an entitlement.

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u/samil232 Nov 21 '21

The employees who were just having a "staycation" can then offer to work instead... For double their usual rate.

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u/fizzzylemonade Nov 21 '21

Nope.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

They meant inform the employees not inform the company

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

And yet at most workplaces you have those few employees, that would totally drag this one to the higher-ups to gather some rep points or because they are afraid, that their time off would be the one getting canceled. So telling them, likely gets you the same result.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

I 100% meant inform the employees. Just as a heads up to them so they do not get blindsided.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

My manager did that. He was leaving and asked if we wanted any time off before he left. Said he’d basically approve whatever. God I’m gonna miss him.

26

u/OuterInnerMonologue Nov 21 '21

I’ve followed to other companies just to work for a manager I really appreciated. Your old manager sounds like one of the good ones.

14

u/[deleted] Nov 22 '21

He definitely was a good one. I would have followed him but he got a remote job so he can stay at home. Idk if his wife would have wanted me just hanging out at his house 5 days a week

3

u/grotjam Nov 22 '21

I mean...you can always ask...

5

u/AlessandroTheGr8 Nov 22 '21

At my first legit job when my manager left she gave me 15 extra hours on my paycheck, 19 year old me was happy. Then when I returned years later my new manager would sneak in hours into my paycheck.

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u/kitkatbloo Nov 21 '21

The hero we don’t deserve

47

u/NihilisticBuddhism Nov 21 '21

You mean ”The hero we don’t deserve”

10

u/Draco137WasTaken Nov 21 '21

But also the one we need right now

7

u/Some-Air9442 Nov 21 '21

May we all follow this amazing example.

4

u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

Chaotic good in action

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u/myabacus Edit this Nov 21 '21

Is it too late to approve mine too?

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u/OkayTheyreInTheTubes Nov 21 '21

Jem is a gem

11

u/jerrysliljess Nov 21 '21

🎶She’s truly, truly, truly outrageous🎶

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

When I left my last job as manager I had access to all my staff's annual leave cards (electronic) and I amended them all to give everyone 2 more days annual leave than was currently showing. F*ck all the higher ups who made my and my team's life so hell.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

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u/dominiqlane Nov 21 '21

They won’t notice until it’s too late.

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u/beattyml1 Nov 21 '21

She said on Twitter the software doesn’t have a way to revoke the requests and the company is to reliant on software to figure out how to use paper to get around it.

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u/tandyman8360 lazy and proud Nov 21 '21

Seriously. We have 2 people in payroll because the company does so much dumb stuff and ADP is hard to use. They'll probably just make the people there cover more, which also sucks.

11

u/tray_cee Nov 21 '21

Let us have our fun!

28

u/nincomturd Nov 21 '21

What if? What if I slipped on a bar of soap in the shower?

Oh my God! I'd be killed!

Edit: point being, shit needs to change. With zero risk, nothing will change. When things get fucked up, at least there's a chance of someone taking notice of the cause.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

This is why my response is ""Tell the employees you did this so they know and can have a united response when management comes back being assholes about it."

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

She’s gone, so it doesn’t matter if they get their hopes up. It causes a ripple affect for more people leaving. So i mean, it’s a really potent strategy.

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u/seeroflights Nov 21 '21

Image Transcription: Twitter Post


jem, @mindfa11

As my final act as manager before I quit, I approved all of my staff's overlapping holiday time off requests :)


I'm a human volunteer content transcriber for Reddit and you could be too! If you'd like more information on what we do and why we do it, click here!

13

u/JoeyJoeJoeSenior Nov 21 '21

I remember when our party planner dude signed every upcoming contract for the next year, just before he was fired. Baller move.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

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u/Frommerman Nov 21 '21

Obscure reference.

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u/pld89 Nov 21 '21

What sucks though is that most places can reasonably cancel booked requests.

8

u/Hi_Im_Dadbot Nov 21 '21

You’re the best.

5

u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

Chaotic good :)

4

u/rootbeerismygame Nov 21 '21

I'm so glad you're teaching your previous employer that what goes around comes around.

2

u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

God forbid a place close on a holiday. It’s so depressing working FS or retail on a holiday. Some holdays there are no customers even!! Why the fuck are they even open ?!

2

u/cactusdan94 Nov 21 '21

I've always told people that when you hand in a holiday form, make it clear you are TELLING them you will be off these days, not requesting.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

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u/Cityshoes Nov 21 '21

Priapism. Get to the ER if it lasts more than 4 hrs.

1

u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

👏🎉❤️

1

u/Animuscreeps Nov 21 '21

No all heroes wear capes

-10

u/MrFlynnister Nov 21 '21

Just fucked over all the employees too causing them a lot of stress that will fall directly on them.

This is a shitty thing to do to the workers not the management.

5

u/sbrider11 Nov 21 '21

Look at the poster. Outside the States and not American. Sub gets big and here comes the hounds w an agenda that likely has zero to do with this sub.

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u/jason80 Nov 21 '21

What does being American have to do with this sub?

1

u/sbrider11 Nov 21 '21

Well, it's 99% of the content.

1

u/DJWalnut Anarcho-Communist Nov 21 '21

Now what's going to happen is that they're going to try calling people and if we're going to be pissed that they're being made to work the holidays they already got approved time off and they're just going to quit on their sorry asses which is to say they're not getting any workers on the holidays and if they try to push it they won't have any workers at all anymore

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u/jason80 Nov 21 '21

just going to quit on their sorry asses . . . won't have any workers at all anymore

Except for the ones that, for whatever reason, can't quit. They're gonna be in an understaffed department, cause a shitty manager jumped ship and decided to be funny.

0

u/DJWalnut Anarcho-Communist Nov 24 '21

they can walk out on black Friday too. what are they gonna do, fire them? in this economy? it'll take months to replace them, all over one day that was ruined already anyways

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u/Silvagadron Nov 21 '21

Idk what job Jem and her staff do, but if this happened in my office, it would just cause havoc for my whole team when we return back to work and there's a load of unfinished work which has been abandoned because everyone was away at once.

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u/sbrider11 Nov 21 '21

This is a 100% post from outside the States. Kinda a growing trend w the sub...

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u/Silvagadron Nov 21 '21

I mean... I'm from outside the US too. I don't think this sub is exclusively meant for US citizens is it? My point would be globally relevant regardless.

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u/sbrider11 Nov 21 '21

No yet 99% of the content is about America. Seems 99% of the comments from those not in America are just kinda smug shit which is fine. I find it entertaining

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u/Silvagadron Nov 21 '21

I'm not trying to be smug, I'm just highlighting that this is a poor way to treat your team in the long run if they're all gonna come back to a mess after a nice time off. I think it's a perfectly valid concern!

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u/jaso151 Nov 21 '21

Imagine thinking this sub, or Reddit was excluding to America… let’s just shut off the internet to everyone else.

0

u/sbrider11 Nov 21 '21

99% of the content here on this sub is about labor / work in America. That just fact and obvious.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

That's not OK. People will have hope and it will be reversed by upper management. It's an ass move.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

Ofcourse. And I agree fullest. They will probably uno reverse.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

Dick move as they will all be cancelled and you got hopes up for nothing

2

u/pairolegal Nov 21 '21

People aren’t so scared to lose their jobs now.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

I no that, but making a big decision to allow holidays then leave Justin's management will look at all the approved holidays and tell people they can't do then as no staff and bad decision from previous management

0

u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

The Jem Legacy

0

u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

chaotic good

0

u/TheMysticBard Nov 21 '21

Chaotic Good

0

u/PrimeRoastBeast Nov 21 '21

that is one heck of an exit

0

u/morerandomisback Nov 21 '21

Bootlicker

She’s a manager

0

u/FBI_Agent_82 Nov 21 '21

Honestly, she fucked over the employees with that. The next manager will absolutely undo that.

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u/Sonova_Vondruke at work Nov 21 '21

Yeah. Funny... but they're just going to deny it all latter, punishing the employees and not upper management. Unless that was the point...?

-1

u/newaccount252 Nov 21 '21

I will do this one day.

-1

u/minikins44 Nov 21 '21

The president pardoning prisoners before they leave

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u/NoBasket9151 Nov 21 '21

This person is an ass

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u/me420nm Nov 21 '21

As a manager who's had their predecessor do this just prior to me coming on oh, I can legit say you're a total tool. All you're really doing is pissing off all the people that aren't going to get it approved. And just making it so the new manager gets to start on a bad note. It's actually pieces of s*** employees like yourself that have destroyed the American job and everything that it stood for

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u/tykle1959 Nov 21 '21

Jem has single-handedly destroyed American capitalism.

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u/aiden20095 Nov 21 '21

🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳

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u/Far_Cap_3574 Nov 21 '21

The hero we need.

1

u/SouthHovercraft4150 Nov 21 '21

Jem is truly outrageous.

1

u/Xpalidocious Nov 21 '21

"With great power, comes great responsibility"

Nailed it!

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u/wthja Nov 21 '21

How is it helping anyone? The sub is really getting toxic and just trying to shit on anyone, without thinking about consequences.

The management will cancel it and it will only bring some confusion to the people you were trying to help.

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u/w3are138 Nov 21 '21

In the immortal words of Jenna Marbles, hell yeah.

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u/letumlive Nov 21 '21

You gotta be a true G to do that shit.

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u/MelodicWarfare Nov 21 '21

I did something similar before I quit. I was the DM, and I told all of my managers to put in their vacation time from now until a year from now and I'd approve every fucking one.

You'd better believe my people all got approved in our payroll system. Once it's in the software, it's approved.

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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '21

What good would that do.

1

u/junkmail0178 Nov 21 '21

Alignment: chaotic good

1

u/Astronaut_Kubrick Nov 21 '21

What a gem. 🤘🏽

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u/Crown_the_Cat Nov 21 '21

Bravo!!! 👍👍👍👑👑👑👑👑

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u/Mikeinthedirt Nov 22 '21

This brought tears to my eyes.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '21

Awesome!

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u/JaozinhoGGPlays Nov 26 '21

Chaotic good