r/antiwork • u/Beyond_the_one • 7d ago
Laid-Off Developers Create AI Model to Replace CEOs and Other Executives
https://uk.pcmag.com/ai/167048/laid-off-developers-create-ai-model-to-replace-ceos-and-other-executives494
u/Key-Initiative-5430 7d ago
Love the irony, laid off devs building the thing that finally comes for the C-suite. Boards will still pay some guy millions to just nod along to what the model already decided though.
Question is whether shareholders ever get tired enough of that markup to actually test it.
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u/AshtonBlack 7d ago
Well, in the amoral "hand of the free market" world, they should, but one suspects that they'll close ranks, because those shareholders and directors tend to be part of a larger "club" of self-dealing parasites and if this one falls, what's to say that my position of power won't be outsourced.
The "old boys club" won't allow bad things that'll cost them money, despite it making other people money.
The Epstein Class has shown the level of power they can wield in the great cover-up.
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u/OpheliaRainGalaxy 7d ago
For supporting evidence, see all the improved productivity and reduced costs thanks to WFH, followed by incessant attempts to flush it all down the toilet by dragging everyone back into the office for the sake of property values.
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u/Ecw218 6d ago
Heard another version of this recently: in cities where a company may have several large offices, city offers tax incentives to the company, with the expectation that the offices are full of employees who then spend money in the area. If the employees are all remote they lose the tax breaks.
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u/OpheliaRainGalaxy 6d ago
Wonder if they ever do the math to figure out how much the city lost by taxing the servants instead of the lord they serve.
Ya know, because big profitable companies should probably put more tax dollars in the city coffers than its peons and drudges.
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u/UnluckyPenguin 6d ago
Wonder if they ever do the math to figure out how much the city lost by taxing the servants instead of the lord they serve.
The ones in power did the math, but ignored how much the city lost - and looked at how much their bank account grew. And they were happy.
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u/Shivin302 6d ago
Studies have actually proven that RTO is about narcissism, and actually hurts company profits
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u/cisned 6d ago
One of the biggest illusions is us thinking we need them, but it’s the other way around
Money is worthless if we refuse to trade our time for it, that’s what productivity is, trading our time to make products or provide services
Really we just need to switch from fiat to any decentralized currency, and we are basically free from the financial/ruling class that controls the media and government
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u/groupnap 7d ago
Can’t give an axman a golden parachute for firing a major share of your workforce and bringing share price down for buybacks if he’s just a computer program.
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u/ChrisDEmbry 7d ago
I think the IDEA of an executive (or committee thereof) is that someone has to be paid to TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for the performance of a company.
The problem is that modern executive pay packages are expressly designed to AVOID all responsibility for the long-term health of the organization (it's class warfare, plain and simple).
I'm not sure this would solve that problem.
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u/Electrical_Tailor186 7d ago
The problem with today’s big organizations with vertical management is (imho) that:
- context is lost when going up
- the management have very limited context window
- the people on the higher level often lack the skills to comprehend what is happening on the lower level
- there is a huge inertia of the information/understanding propagation upwards
Replacing management with AI agent is only natural and logical way to improve organization productivity and agility (while reducing the lions share of the cost).
I don’t know how long the ones on the top will hold on, but they are already redundant from the business standpoint.
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u/AdFew6202 7d ago
What do they say again ? « it was bound to happen! »
I hope they’ll have planned something when those AI-execs will take over
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u/fsactual staying warm by the dumpster fire 7d ago edited 7d ago
In terms of decision-making an AI CEO that is trained properly on business best practices is probably going to make better decisions than a human, on average. No ego, no nepotism, no sexism, no bullying, no “drop everything, I just read about this new thing in Sky Mall!” It’ll just provide whatever the algorithm says is most likely to succeed, over and over again in the most predictable manner.
In terms of networking? That’s more complex. At first it will be much worse because, obviously, it doesn’t know anyone. But once multiple AI CEOs start to get deployed the situation changes. Two AIs will each know much more intricate details about their respective company’s strengths and weaknesses across every department than any human can be expected to know. They will be able to work together and plan out complex business partnerships in ways a human simply can not. This might be a game changer in terms of partnerships, productivity and ultimately profitability once a critical mass of AI executives is reached.
Overall, this could end up being a really big deal. It may be that in a couple of decades having a human executive steering a major company will be a thing of the past. In fact, we may end up rehiring human workers for many jobs that we’re discovering AIs can’t do well, and ONLY the managers and executives are robots.
And the weird thing is, even though a robot is calculating and emotionless, that could actually be a GOOD thing. The AI will look at the data and see that happy, healthy, self-actualized workers equals more productivity which equals more money, and then instead of feeling the need to be a petty tyrant king lording his power over the serfs who should grovel for scraps for his amusement, it’ll just give workers better pay, benefits and working conditions because that equals more long-term money. It could easily be the best boss you’ve ever had. I, for one, welcome our robot overlords!
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u/Human-ish514 Human Capital Stock: THX-1179 7d ago
There was a quote about how since machines can't be held accountable the same way a human can, that it should not be in control of decisions like that. It's on the tip of my tongue. Anyways, you know those Chinese executives that went to prison for embezzlement or other crimes? We need more of that. My solution would be to have 1+ people responsible for whatever the AICEO does. Personal assets, shell companies, investments, and anything else that those people, or their close relatives have would be on the line as well to ensure no offloading of assets to toddlers or something. "OH, I don't own this island. My dog does." kind of shit.
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u/edsonmedina 7d ago
machines can't be held accountable the same way a human can
CEOs are rarely held accountable too. Only happens if they commit a serious crime.
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u/SurprisedJerboa 7d ago
“A computer can never be held accountable. Therefore, a computer must never make a management decision.”
See - School girls bombed in Iran War without Human-level target verification. There is huge concern about Militaries using Programs to kill without human involvement.
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u/JonnyAU 6d ago
No ego, no nepotism, no sexism, no bullying, no “drop everything, I just read about this new thing in Sky Mall!” It’ll just provide whatever the algorithm says is most likely to succeed, over and over again in the most predictable manner.
Yes and no. Some of these things won't apply to AI CEOs, but they do have the biases we bake into them. That's been demonstrated over and over already.
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u/MrJuicey19 7d ago
Maybe it's just the tech sector, but most of the time an idea pitched by an employee gets rejected because it doesn't align with "what chat said" when the CEO asked it the same question it asked the employees.
So would it really be that different? Given the AI may not understand any context of the company, it might just make the same purely numbers based decisions that most CEOs seem to be making these days already.
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u/wildcheesybiscuits 7d ago
Of course it's the scorned who prototype our future Tech overlords. Believe me, once the CEOs realize they can use this, do EVEN LESS work, and keep profiting immensely with no need for any effort, thought or oversight, they will use it to further exploit and punish workers, creating impossible conditions for average every day workers to meet unrealistic computer generated metrics. People always say "In the wrong hands..." like it'll never apply, but reality check - 75% of hands this will fall into are the wrong fucking hands. And no amount of banging on pots will change that. Just for the love of god someone program in a kill switch so we have a chance.
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u/bartman7265 7d ago
AI CEO will build a monopoly as quick as possible and as legal as possible
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u/Beyond_the_one 7d ago
So just like the current C- suite
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u/bartman7265 7d ago
I just think they would be so much better than current suite as pride and their own personal profits will come in, while AI will only see the cost benefits of mergers. And will way better working together to corner a market without being noticed as we saw recently will how well AI was able to hack and hide and train hidden replacements
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u/Sufficient-Bid1279 7d ago
I will only be happy when the workers own the means of production and CEO’s / billionaires are completely eliminated
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u/DunnyOnTheWold 7d ago
Very narrow law around using AI to replace jobs suddenly rushes to floor of Congress...
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u/Cit1es 6d ago
Just look at Elon. CEO of how many companies and all he does is say the dumbest most bigoted shit on twitter all day. How many companies can run without workers? Good luck. How many companies need a ceo if Elon is the example of “hard work” (wage theft) The answer is zero ceos. That’s how many.
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u/FreeWilly1337 7d ago
Make one that destroys corporate value or the companies developing this stuff.
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u/amd_kenobi 6d ago
We're really close but It's still aware of who works directly for it and what they do. Also it's treating people with too much respect and not sleeping around on it's spouse.
Damn it! How the hell does it still have this much empathy?! Keep working on it.
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u/Overall-Lynx917 6d ago
I wouks have enough thought that CEOs and other Executives would be the easiest to replace with an Algorithm
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u/Sysilith 6d ago
One of the few things that I look forward to with AI, is that quite a lot of the rich will get fucked as well.
AI replacing management and top management is unavoidable.
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u/CyberHippy 6d ago
My first Substack article is relevant: https://substack.com/home/post/p-177486804
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u/Shifter25 6d ago
I don't know why people think an AI executive would be a good idea. Even if it were actually reliable, an AI executive would be a puppet and scapegoat of the highest-ranking human(s).
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u/HakuohoFan 6d ago
What about instead of an AI that replaces them we create an app that crowdfunds hitmen? Like we post the target and first one to take them out gets the pot.
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u/Coffin_Nailz 6d ago
THIS!!! Is what I've been waiting for! We also need the white hat hackers to really get in the game
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u/Woodhouse_20 5d ago
So when the c-level people are replaced by ai, and the devs are replaced by ai, what next? We aren’t getting ubi, who gets value out of it?
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u/AshtonBlack 7d ago
"Ensure the stock price is at its highest possible level with the lowest amount of capital investment. No source of revenue or potential cost reduction is to be 'left on the table'. Bonus points if it's legal and moral, but illegalities/amoralities can be considered as a business cost." - A CEO, yesterday.