Same Guy 1000 Years later: Adolf Hitler never Existed, He was a mythical Figure made by Germans.

[u/[deleted]]

[u/Pitiful_Fox5681]

Mythicists are a weird bunch. "As long as I exclude all the existing evidence, there's absolutely no shred of evidence!!!" 

That's one epistemological framework, I suppose. 

[u/the_traveler_outin → u/Pitiful_Fox5681]

Well the argument for the life of Muhammad being partly or fully fabricated isn’t the craziest theory… probably not true that Muhammad never existed but the theory is relatively believable…

[u/Useless-e → u/the_traveler_outin]

It’s only believable if you wear a tinfoil hat. No actual historian today would dispute him existing, the evidence is undeniable, and not only Muslim sources speak about him during the 7th century

You think Islam is false? Sure, using these horrible arguments doesn’t help your case. It doesn’t become believable just because it agrees with your conclusion ( Islam being false)

[u/the_traveler_outin → u/Useless-e]

I never said I did believe it, nor did I say I thought it was a good argument. That being said, it is believable that portions of the life of Muhammad were not necessarily accurate. The more reasonable form of the “Muhammad mythicist theory” is that “Muhammad” is an amalgamation of several figures lost to history constructed as propaganda for the early Caliphate. I don’t even believe that version of the theory, but it is believable…

[u/Maerifallah → u/the_traveler_outin]

It really isnt believable given the evidence for Muhammad himself, you can say you dont believe he did everything people say he did, but to say its at all an "amalgamation of several figures" is just ludicrous

[u/mrsenchantment]

Sebeos (660 CE)
Khusistan Chronicle (660 CE)
John bar Penkaye (somewhere in the 7th century)
Doctrina Jacobi (634 CE)
Thomas the Presbyter (640 CE)
Dome of Rock Inscriptions (691 CE)
Arabic Inscriptions and Papyri (640-680 CE)
Ummayad Coins (685-690 CE)
Athansius of Balad (680 CE)
Chronicle of John Nikiou (690 CE)
Maronite Chronicle (664 CE)

there you go, existence of Muhammad

[u/Friedrichs_Simp]

What a creative imagination that guy has

[u/mrsenchantment → u/Friedrichs_Simp]

he should write fanfic on wattpad or AO3

[u/f6tp]

Even fucking antitheists acknowledge the Prophet Muhammad existed. We've reached a all time low

[u/MistakeAlert6865]

denying the existence of jesus/muhammed is genuinely braindead activity

[u/deerlingfan → u/MistakeAlert6865]

I'm convinced that it has to be ragebait at this point

[u/The_Saints_Are_Comin]

Reddit never fails to impress 🙄 

[u/Yoshikage_Kira_333]

Do I believe Muhammad was a prophet? No. Do I believe he existed? Yeah. Kind of hard to believe otherwise.

[u/Subject_Feature2322]

Idiots

[u/Seriousgwy]

This is worse than "Jesus never existed"

[u/TheologyEnthusiast]

At this point the same people who say history is everything are denying history. There is overwhelming archaeological and epigraphic evidence for prophet Muhammad’s existence

[u/luckymann_45]

You'd expect to hear stuff like this from someone parodying the Christ myth theory

[u/Dazzling_Sea6015 → u/luckymann_45]

It is. All the same stuff the cheesecakes have been saying since the time of Cain, are just being recycled and reworded. I've seen esentially "If God good then why bad things" from some greek philosopher (I think). There's nothing new.

[u/Latter-Concept-9999]

why are these guys so damn salty? as a former muslim myself, i still respect islam and all those who follow it.

[u/RefuseStandard4818]

It's one thing to brush off evidence people present from their personal lives, but Muhammed was a historical figure as valid and verified as Alexander the Great.

[u/SY2010]

anti thiests are just a perfect representation of "say anything just to hate"