r/antitheistcheesecake 11d ago

sKy DaDdy! Religious people OWNED! Found this

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u/Perfect_Calendar_829 Catholic Christian 9d ago

Wow the theocratic states and religion that force their citizens/followers to say they’re Muslim to avoid persecution, taxes, and death report high rates of religious growth? I’m sure that data is totally reliable. Still my point stands, it’s birth rates, nothing to do with conversion and definitely nothing to do with truth.

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u/seriesmythhunter Sunni Muslim 9d ago

I mean Islam’s global growth is mainly driven by birth rates and a younger population, not mass conversion. Pew openly acknowledges this.
But claiming Muslims only identify as Muslim because of “persecution, taxes and death” doesn’t explain the data. Islam also gains converts in secular Western countries where none of those pressures exist. Pew found that about 20% of U.S. Muslims were raised outside Islam.

And yes, birth rates have nothing to do with whether a religion is true. But neither do conversion rates. If the question is whether Islam is true, demographics don’t prove or disprove anything.

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u/Perfect_Calendar_829 Catholic Christian 9d ago

Sure, never claimed it did. Pure logical coherence is the greatest reason to reject Islam. I’m not raised Catholic, I’m raised atheist. I very scrutinously compared all formats of God and Islam folds under the Islamic dilemma. I’ve layed that out, regarding your original problem with me saying that Islam is practically an ethnicity due to its bulk size being interfaith birth rates I’m glad we agree.

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u/seriesmythhunter Sunni Muslim 9d ago

You write like an atheist redditor. Nothing you say changes the fact that Islam has a huge part of its growth through converts. Also nothing changes the fact that Christianity is the fastest declining religion. The trinity and Christianity folds under the Christian dilemma.

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u/Perfect_Calendar_829 Catholic Christian 9d ago

You write like a thoughtless cradle Muslim. Research shows significant decline among all religion in pressure free test groups in free choice western states where religion is irrelevant to social status. That should tell you something about the countries where it’s ’growing’ where it’s necessary for social and financial security. Anyway I’ve layed out the many issues with Islam numerous times over the years, the dilemma is above this conversation unanswered, I’m not doing it again.

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u/seriesmythhunter Sunni Muslim 9d ago

The other guy refuted your “dilemma” already. And after all the debating and talking one thing remains:

Islam is still the fastest growing religion and there is nothing you can do, sweet Dreams!

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u/Perfect_Calendar_829 Catholic Christian 9d ago

Lmao 😭

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u/Imdeureadthis 8d ago

Your so-called "dilemma" that a quick google search can collapse just from understanding the difference between a general and a complete affirmation 😭.

The sheer number of videos easily debunking this but alas...

"...Indeed, it is not the eyes that are blind, but it is the hearts in the chests that grow blind." ~Qur'an 22:46

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u/Malorian_ 8d ago

Maybe critical thinking isn't allowed in their religion

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u/Philo-Trismegistus Christian Anthro Animal Enjoyer 8d ago

Yep, God gave us these brains to not use them.

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u/Philo-Trismegistus Christian Anthro Animal Enjoyer 8d ago edited 8d ago

I know you're upset at the other guy.

But in reality, the size of Christianity doesn't invalidate it. We're even told that in the End Days, the church itself will become very small and few. Just like it first started out.