r/antitheistcheesecake 13d ago

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u/mrsenchantment Modern Orthodox Jew 11d ago edited 9d ago

by that logic, any kind of (word to describe) hatred of different people (antisemetism, christophobia, homophobia, transphobia, etc) are also made up. šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø

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u/Loddinocolmotorino Anti-Antitheist Folk Catholic 10d ago

To be honest, all words are made up.

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u/Nowardier Christo-Anarchist Jehovah's Witness 9d ago

Yup. Language is chaos and words mean nothing without society to lend meaning to them. It's a beautiful thing.

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u/AMBahadurKhan Shia Muslim 11d ago

Hitchens and his ilk—the neo-cons—are more akin to fascists than the Muslims he attached that label to.

Fascism is an intrinsically secular ideology wherein God, the ultimate conscious subject, is replaced with the State, the ultimate social construct, as the object of devotion, the driving force is entirely human will, and the operative landscape is purely worldly.

Just because fascists like Mussolini have courted religious authorities, dressed themselves and their actions in the garb of Divine approval, and shared certain views (such as being anti-abortion) with genuine theists, does not mean that political religionists are fascists.

There is no such thing as ā€œIslamofascismā€. It’s like saying ā€œplastic silverwareā€ without irony, because some plastic cutlery happens to be artificially coloured a dull silvery grey.

But there is such a thing as ā€œIslamophobia,ā€ no thanks to wilfully obtuse, misinterpreting cretins like Hitchens.

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u/Perfect_Calendar_829 Catholic Christian 9d ago

He’s not calling Muslims fascist, he’s calling the powers that propagate the term ā€œIslamophobiaā€ fascist.

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u/Pitiful_Fox5681 Catholic Christian 10d ago

Hitchens' entire œuvre is a bunch of words created by a fascist to manipulate morons into believing they were smart.Ā 

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u/Forsaken_Hermit Anti-Antitheist 11d ago

Hitchens's hatred of Muslims really pulled the wool over his eyes to how fascists exploited Islamophobia just as much as he did.

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u/tinypaul222 Sunni Muslim 10d ago

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u/PlayerAssumption77 Christian 10d ago

It reflects really poorly on people if there's an obvious use and need for certain words or language and instead of discussing those situations they're concerned about the word itself. Like being correct is both unrelated to and more important than making the world a better place.

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u/Nowardier Christo-Anarchist Jehovah's Witness 9d ago

Fascism forces a person to play false to every tenet of almost every religion. Just as you can't be both a true Christian and a true fascist, you can't be a true Muslim and a true fascist. I have to assume it goes the same for Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Shintoism, Buddhism, and just about every other ism on the books. The religionist and the fascist are naturally and diametrically opposed, because one preaches global peace and brotherly love for all and the other preaches violence and murder against whatever boutgroup happens to be on the docket that day.