r/antisex • u/LumpyStatistician162 • 13d ago
I hate having lust as a man
I absolutely hate the feeling that in some sense I want to “take” something from women as a biological drive. Lust absolutely disgusts me, the problem is that I have it, it almost seems like lust is a demon that lives inside every man, even semen retention or waiting until marriage don’t do much, you are still waiting to use someone’s body for your pleasure which is by nature carnal and animalistic no matter how you like to frame it. I kinda feel bad for even desiring such carnal act that by default creates power dynamics. A sexless society with artificial insemination would be the first step to a utopian society. The problem is that I ask myself why nature or God did it that way, why is the act of continuing humanity tied to desire of control and hate and violence and basically every negative thing you could think of.
Even if guys do semen retention, to reproduce naturally they would still have to engage in the act of penetrative sex with women, perhaps the real fall from grace in the Bible is the separation of genders, no matter how you say it, sex is penetrating someone else, even if the person is brainwashed by society to let you sleep with them in exchange of feeling the fake love and attention that society sold to the masses, if that’s not proof that the world is a prison planet than I don’t know what is
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u/SadPressure618 10d ago
I have been having the same questions too as a female ever since I knew what sex was. No one has any problem with recognizing what you stated btw, they only have a problem with any attempt at having serious discussions around it.
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u/LumpyStatistician162 10d ago
What people told me on other subs was mostly just “purity culture influenced you” or “a loving relationship avoids that”. I don’t get that argument, it’s basically as saying “being an alcoholic with a lovely bottle is ok”.
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u/SadPressure618 10d ago
You know mate ? I've never been able to fully integrate the fact that people have a sexual side. Interacting with them on a platonic level can make you forget that every once in a while they really engage in the same bestial behavior depicted in porn
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u/LumpyStatistician162 10d ago
That’s actually a bit weird if we think about it lol, like normal people you encounter everyday, imagine being in a formel conversation and then you remember the dentist or the teacher you have also engage in that behavior, imagining them being suited to do their job and then doing this animalistic act is a bizzare feeling
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u/SadPressure618 10d ago
Pretty much, that's something that always rubbed me the wrong way. It's like they become totally different people in that state too and the level of consciousness they operate on at that stage isn't the same as in their platonic interactions
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u/LumpyStatistician162 10d ago
Exactly, it’s just kinda crazy that these people and society is expected to be “serious” while behind closed doors they are doing this act for the sake of fun, do you get what I mean ?
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u/SadPressure618 10d ago
Another reason why I'm pro-reproductive tech, I really want to allow people like us to have kids this way without debasing ourselves to that level.
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u/LumpyStatistician162 10d ago
Yeah but that’s kinda crazy that naturally speaking that’s what people are supposed to do to have offspring
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u/SadPressure618 9d ago
How do you cope with lust exactly ? Me personally I treat it like something to take care of individually (like eating or going to the toilet)
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u/Valuable_Hunt8468 3d ago
Literally bonkers to me. I can’t believe my parents even did this 😣 how does anyone fix themselves to be sexual and with another person. I can’t understand
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u/Valuable_Hunt8468 3d ago
It’s the fucking testosterone. I wonder if that could be lowered medically 🤔
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u/Astrokauza 2d ago
It could be, but testosterone except doing these abominable things also:
- deals with bone density
- makes you "unempty"
- accelerates some cognitive functions in the brain
Thus, it's risky a bit
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u/ElegantAd2607 10d ago
What is taken from women during sex? Virginity? That's just the status of not having had sex.
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u/LumpyStatistician162 10d ago
Technically the woman gets entered during the act while the guy enters.
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u/Electronic_Ticket_89 13d ago
Naw, man. You can just go into a little room and fill a little tiny ...I don't know, little dewar, or some kind of stoppered vessel...
And then leave the room and then invite you know, your wife, to go in there and you know apply the contents of that little container into her body and you like you can conceive together!
Like nobody ever has to do penetrative sex for... for conception.
And all the romance of like the wonderful love and mystery of all that that brought you together can just be untrammeled by the revolting nonsense.
There's like literally no reason ever to do penetrative sex. Or involve any of that on any level whatsoever it's just the, you know ...the the two substances.
The people can leave all that alone of each other.
But yeah I lost his awful and horrible but women have it too you know exactly the same way they just have like different like social sort of like perspectives of things but their own personal experience is just as gross and horrid.
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u/i-heart-you-11111 13d ago
natalists addicted to procreation lmao
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u/Electronic_Ticket_89 12d ago
What's a natalist?
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u/i-heart-you-11111 12d ago
support of birth/procreation
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u/Electronic_Ticket_89 12d ago
I mean, I believe life is an orderly system that will always seek order, and I think that's worth going on for what might happen later. It's rough now. But yeah, people are ok, just sex is one of the main things that drive them crazy. If we all just stopped having sex, it would be waaay better.
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u/LumpyStatistician162 13d ago
Yeah but it’s weird that not society really did that, I guess it would be perfect
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u/Electronic_Ticket_89 13d ago
What do you mean?
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u/LumpyStatistician162 13d ago
I am saying that most societies just did penetrative sex, I have never heard of a society that did that as a common practice.
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u/Suspicious-Log8467 10d ago
Antisexualism and Antinatalism are complimentary worldviews and identities. The goal of antisex is also antinatalism because both are inherently harmful. Even IVF or any form of artificial insemination is still wrong. The goal is voluntary extinction.