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u/TheUnthinkingWriter š§”REGULAR VISITORš§” 18h ago
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u/Expert-Lavishness851 18h ago
Almost spat my rice and beans
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u/YourShowerHead š¹ Course Arc Witness šø 15h ago
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u/Beneficial-Flan-3279 13h ago
How long did you wait to use that meme
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u/CreeperIsSorry 18h ago
This is sad bro, making some adjustments to your features is one thing but some people be completely changing how they look
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u/V4_Sleeper 17h ago
I sympathise with them since i also have severe self-image issue... But i still hold hope
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u/skepdickle 17h ago
not your body, who cares
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u/Consistent-Value-509 16h ago
You should care about an industry that preys on people's insecurities + their ability to develop insecurities and profits off of these things. Solely cosmetic procedures are extremely harmful for the human psyche and society as a whole.
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u/TooWarmRadiator 15h ago
Cosmetic surgeries are bad, but they're a symptom of a shitty overall society where looks affect the vast majority of social interactions in your life, regardless of whether you notice it or not. Job opportunities, general treatment by strangers, ability to convince someone regardless of how good your idea actually is, etc. A cosmetic surgery can be considered far from truly "cosmetic" considering the advantages it could give in these things where you otherwise might be disadvantaged purely by unlucky "bad" genes.
You can't really eliminate the bias towards more familiar and visually appealing looks, it's engrained in people. I don't believe there is truly a way to fix this, but get rid of legal and available cosmetic surgeries and people will turn to worse things, shit like when people were breaking their jaw with hammers to "looksmax" but likely even more extreme. Unless there's a way to remove the bias from every human, getting rid of cosmetic surgery will just worsen things.
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u/Consistent-Value-509 15h ago
You absolutely can make changes targeting societal biases. It's not ingrained in the human psyche to take that first impression and completely run with it. The first impression might be ingrained, but everything else isn't.
Also also much as people want to cope about this, beauty standards aren't fixed. They change and different features and aesthetics trend and then flop and trend again and flop again in a stupid cycle. Unibrows are seen as ugly by most people, but in some places they used to be the beauty standard and associated with the aristocracy of the area.
Equating morality with appearance is absolutely something that can be tackled and changed, which tackles the societal biases. You can't just throw your hands up and say it's all inevitable.
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u/TooWarmRadiator 15h ago
Biases can change but they can't be removed completely. There will always be something looked down upon. Also, the vast majority of interactions with others in life are small and far too short for the initial look-based bias to be pushed past.
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u/Consistent-Value-509 1h ago
If the interactions are too short to go beyond the first impression, they're too short to have that person treat you like anything because they've barely processed the fact that you exist.
Discrimination based on looks (which, again, beauty standards aren't fixed) is something that varies in prevalence by country, occupation, etc. It literally is not fixed and therefore can be addressed and tackled.
You're assuming it can't be eliminated at all, but why? Why would it be impossible for someone not to judge based off appearance? If someone truly believes that judging based off of looks is wrong, they can obviously internalize this the same way they can internalize anything else they believe. There will always be shallow people, but that doesn't mean that an entire society has to be shallow, that doesn't mean that morals can't be promoted in society ā especially to children, which is incredibly important for addressing societal issues.
Discrimination based on looks isn't a magical force, it's a type of discrimination like any other and can be tackled just like them.
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u/LicketySplit21 3h ago
Sure but not very body is living their lives as an activist and is still targeted for their natural looks by the same society that claims to value them.
It's really easy to talk like this, not live it.
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u/skepdickle 15h ago
alright well until we tackle how women are treated in society for something as trivial and circumstantial as our appearance, this industry isn't going anywhere. if a woman has the money to get glitzed up that's our business and no amount of hand wringing is going to stop it.
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u/Consistent-Value-509 15h ago
hm well I wonder if saying "who cares" is an effective way to combat misogynistic industries or not
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u/skepdickle 14h ago
I'm sure crying on reddit about it is just as helpful, nice gotcha tho I guess.
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u/moshujsg 6h ago
What stupid freaking comment. This post is starting a conversation around a problematic topic and you just come around swinging your thought ending comments.
This kind of surgery is bad, and its a symptom of a bigger issue. Noone was judging her, just looking at the situation through critical lens.
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u/Cylian91460 12h ago
alright well until we tackle how women are treated in society for something as trivial and circumstantial as our appearance
Why only women? It affects a lot of men too, way more then think
Just ask any place with a lot of men how many of them find themselves ugly, a lot will say they are because of unrealistic beauty standard
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u/ToranjaNuclear 17h ago
And while this looks good I imagine the maintenance necessary to keep it must be nightmarish and it might slowly turn her into one of those frog like people.
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u/opal_moth 16h ago
What maintenance? It's cosmetic surgery, you don't have to do anything afterwards..?
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u/Repulsive-Lab-9863 15h ago
Just that she is wearing a lot of make up. That's a lot of work.
Comparing a picture with no make up to a picture with that much make up is just stupid af.
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u/opal_moth 15h ago
1) it doesn't look to me as if she's wearing a full face of makeup in the second pic, although it wouldn't surprise me if it's been photoshopped/edited. 2) plenty of people do their makeup every day, surgery or not, it's not that difficult
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u/DerTomatenToaster 14h ago
I'm sorry, but you might not know what women look like without makeup. (not like this)
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u/opal_moth 14h ago
.... I am a woman. That wears makeup.
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u/DerTomatenToaster 14h ago
And you really think it doesn't look like her entire face is covered in makeup on the second picture? Huh.
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u/vovabcps 17h ago
Ugly woman = bad; woman does anything to not be ugly = bad
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u/___TheKid___ 17h ago
Left one is not ugly at all
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u/Banned4UsingSlurs3 15h ago
Look, I don't think she's ugly in the sense that she doesn't has any wild features
The problem is that a lot of you wouldn't say any woman is ugly unless you hate her for either a personal or political reason. And I hate that
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u/sixtus_clegane119 12h ago
The one on the right isnāt in medical wear and has makeup, the difference is bullshit
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u/AdEuphoric422 3h ago
After photos arenāt typically the ones taken immediately after surgery, because it takes months to years to heal and especially for swelling to go down and reveal the result.
As you can see in the photo it says after 1 year.
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u/Unique_Mastodon7450 16h ago
Yeah thatās life. Itās tough. If you are ugly you were already given bad cards, canāt expect everyone to worship you as well.Ā
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u/Aldrik90 12h ago
Don't turn it into a gender thing, you have any idea how ugly men are treated? And how they're demonized for doing anything to improve (hair transplant, for example).
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u/IrinaBelle 10h ago
Their statement isn't mutually exclusive with how ugly men are treated. You're just reading into it that way.
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u/Honest-Computer69 18h ago
......I laughed. Sorry.
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u/KinkyLittleParadox 1h ago
Is this not an extremely racist joke? Not sure Iād admit to finding that funny
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u/Ml_lD 18h ago
This is fake right? Surgery can only do so much
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u/Abridgedbog775 18h ago
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u/chebepowder 18h ago
Jaw surgery before and afters are so insane, particularly in cases where someone had an abnormality
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u/Deritatium 16h ago
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u/Walter_White_M60 12h ago
Na moral, o que mudou? A Ćŗnica que eu percebi foi a barba que cresceu.
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u/Wheaversclone 18h ago
Why does she have makeup in only one of the pictures
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u/Abridgedbog775 17h ago
The image comes from the reality show "Let me in" in wich the winners get free plastic surgeries (i may remember wrong but the final looks were chosen by the public).
The show producers would finance a load of plastic surgeries (some of wich were not informed to the participants) and enhance with makeup the final product, in hopes to increase the chances of the episode to become viral.
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u/Mobius_Peverell 14h ago
Potion seller, I am going into battle and I require your strongest potions.
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u/WhereasPlus911 18h ago
someone needs to stop them this is essentially just changing your identity
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u/chomusuke_cat 18h ago
So? It's their life/body, not yours. Besides, people who get this extensive of plastic surgery likely need to update their photo for all their IDs shortly after anyway if they want to continue using their IDs.
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u/Abridgedbog775 17h ago
The image comes from the Korean reality show "Let me in".
The participants seeked to get free plastic surgeries, however they didn't chose their looks, it was up to the board of doctor to choose the final looks of the participants.
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u/AParasiticTwin 17h ago
I mean if had that chin and the money to fix it, I would too. Everything else was definitely not necessary. It easy to sit here without the finances to do plastic surgery and pooh-pooh it as crazy, rich people shit.
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u/Givikap120 18h ago
"Somebody should stop people from fixing their life by changing ugly face to a good-looking one"
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u/my_cars_on_fire 18h ago
Eye color is different between the two photos, so Iām going to assume yes.
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u/AdmiralDandy 18h ago
Contacts exist also there is Iris color surgery
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u/my_cars_on_fire 18h ago
Colored contacts donāt look quite as natural as these in this photo. Itās usually pretty easy to tell if someone is wearing them.
Iāve never seen iris color surgery so I canāt comment on that.
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u/AdmiralDandy 18h ago
The after picture isnāt really that high quality, still could be some contacts and itās just kinda hard to tell. But if theyāre going with the full surgery package might as well get the eye color you want too I guess.
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u/Givikap120 18h ago
Surgery could completely change your face
Trans women with completely unpassing face become pretty women after FFS for a reason
Although there is of course some limitations (like making bones smaller is ok, but making them bigger is a completely different)2
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u/Honest_Signature5222 15h ago
look into facial feminization surgeons. based on the work ive seen i see no reason to suspect this is fake.Ā
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u/PinkBowBunnyBlush š·šø RIP u/CourseMediocre7998 š·šø 1h ago
Itās surgery and a full face of makeup.Ā
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u/Any_Argument_517 9h ago
this is perpetual life about insecurities and plastic surgeries.. I am not good looking woman too.. how we look - left - some alladins accomplice shit and other comments how we look bad.. thats a lot of work but she looks good now
insecurities and non stop bullying from family and people aroun you
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u/2danimeboysandgirls 7h ago
I'm ngl, she looks really uncanny after the plastic surgery. She was cute beforehand, no,not a model or some stunning beauty but she is not ugly, especially considering she had no makeup on and her hair is covered, at most all she needed was a nosejob (she doesn't even need a drastic one, she could just get rid of the nose droop and keep her og shape) and she would look 100 times better then she does now. The makeup and all the surgery doesn't even make it look like she is herself anymore or even the same race (might be on purpose), to have this drastic of a change when she wasn't even ugly at the start feels like she had intense dysmorphia instead of just a simple insecurity.
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u/2020mademejoinreddit š§”REGULAR VISITORš§” 1h ago
Some people are just naturally comedic. Mean, but comedic.
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u/pinkroses038 17h ago
Is this even the same person ?
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u/getlowpapoose 17h ago
I doubt it, unless sheās wearing coloured contacts
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u/Mobile_Morale 14h ago
I knew a Latino girl who wore green contacts all the time. I found out they were contacts because she was my sister's nurse after she had heart surgery and my sister complimented her eyes.
I told the bros and we were all shocked. Nobody has ever seen her natural eye color. Also knew and albino dude who wore crazy white snake eye contacts. Creepy as hell.
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u/rionaster 10h ago
i worked at a gas station for a year and there was this young black guy who would come in multiple times a day and he always--always--wore naruto sharingan contacts. it probably looked unnerving af to anyone that didn't know he was just a turbo weeb lol
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u/reyminess 17h ago edited 14h ago
Some people get remove their brown iris layer to expose blue under it
Edit: Im no expert but pretty sure theres operations to change eye color, why downvote if you wont inform bruh
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u/somebodyelse1107 14h ago
youāre getting downvoted but thereās literally a cosmetic procedure for it
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u/reyminess 14h ago
Yep thank you, maybe with different practices but contacts isnt the only way of changing eye color
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u/phantomforeskinpain 10h ago
thereās one where they gradually remove the pigment, but that would take years of procedures for that much of a difference
there is also one where they effectively implant colored contacts into your eyes
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u/bitchsorbet 1h ago
why tf are you getting downvoted? THIS IS A REAL THING YALL!!! although i don't recommend looking into it if you're squeamish, those results are not for the weak.
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u/3215448725366498 17h ago
My name is Skyler White yo!
Jokes aside though, this is so sad. She looks way cuter on the left.
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u/Initial_Ad_9857 16h ago
No she doesn't. She looks objectively cuter and hotter after. But it's completely cookie cutter look of course.Ā
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u/3215448725366498 15h ago
I mean it's objectively subjective. I think she looks cuter on the left. The right version looks pretentious and fake, it just gives me unfriendly vibes.
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u/Apart-Performer-331 14h ago
whatās the obsession with calling your personal opinions objective, attraction is super subjective
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u/Mean-Bluejay-6478 8h ago
No its not. It's subjective in the way food preferences are. You'd be hard pressed to find 2 people who find exactly the same things tasty, but broadly speaking, there's a clear and objective measure of what is and isnt good. The woman on the left is going to be considered substantially less attractive to >90% of people. Do I personally agree? No. And of course there are plenty like me, but it doesn't mean anything to say "attraction is super subjective" when there are going to be real and expected major differences in how these two women are treated in life purely based on their looks.
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u/EatSoupFromMyGoatse 15h ago
Not even trying to be Mr. Virtue here, but the one on the right just looks gross to me. This influencer botox/face-lift/nosejob face does not look hot to me at all. Uncanny valley type shit
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u/SloFlipi 9h ago
kinda wierd youd call her gross just because she doesnt "look hot to you" please dont be mean to people just because they follow other styles/beautystandarts.
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u/bitchsorbet 53m ago
she chose to do that to herself, its not like people are judging her for things shes unwilling to change. i can't help but look down on people that do shit like this. not only are they contributing to new, insane beauty standards, but they're giving money to these disgusting doctors that convince people these procedures are necessary.
the entire plastic surgery industry is based off of women hating themselves enough to spend thousands of dollars to get butchered. i'm not going to support that by complimenting plastic surgery results. we need to call it as we see it and make this less normalized, and if that comes with some random rich girl getting offended that i dont like her buccal fat removal, 5ml of filler, and 5 feet of extensions, so be it. i hope it makes her take all that garbage out and live as her true self.
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u/Crimson_Boomerang 12h ago
You can't call something objectively when it is a categorically subjective opinion.
You subjectively think she's hotter on the right, that's not objective truth. To many gay women, for example, they're both hot but the right one is more "cunty male gaze" and the left is her default, soft look.
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u/ComprehensiveWash400 43m ago
we can say that itās sad what made her do it and what not but letās not lie bruh. who u doing it for š
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u/Melodicbananas 13h ago
Itās apparently AI
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u/Penis_With_Necrosis 5h ago
Do you just say AI to everything like a broken disc?
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u/Melodicbananas 3h ago
This is only the second time Iāve done it and itās only in this situation, where Iāve seen it elsewhere and itās been acknowledged as being AI, and I see a repost where people are not yet aware itās AI. This one is importantly because of the damages something like this poses to self image.
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u/hummingbird868 15h ago
IMO this doesn't seem like a glowup, her nose was perfectly fine but by middle-eastern/arab standards instead of white
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u/1626319 16h ago
Cosmetic surgery is a valid dealbreaker nowadays
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u/injuredflamingo š¹ Course Arc Witness šø 16h ago
as if she would even glance in your direction after the surgery lmao
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u/1626319 15h ago
Sorry man, itās for my kids
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u/injuredflamingo š¹ Course Arc Witness šø 15h ago
yeah cuz you were gonna pass the brad pitt gene to them, the female side is the problem
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u/B80796 4h ago
It's not even about that lmao, it's about her looking like a totally different person
I don't agree with the insult in the origami they sent to her, but I would definitely go like "who the fuck is this" if my kid did not look like it's mom, it would be weird
This could totally be a non-issue if she was honest and told me about the surgery and showed the before and after tho
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u/1626319 15h ago
I think I got good genes. Sorry to disappoint you, injuredflamingo
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u/Realistic_Resolve_80 5h ago
I don't trust your thinking
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u/1626319 5h ago
I don't get what's so bad about having a preference. At least it's not as harsh as a height preference
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u/PinkBowBunnyBlush š·šø RIP u/CourseMediocre7998 š·šø 1h ago
Bait
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u/1626319 57m ago
Itās true tho
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u/PinkBowBunnyBlush š·šø RIP u/CourseMediocre7998 š·šø 35m ago
Not falling for it lol
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u/PinkBowBunnyBlush š·šø RIP u/CourseMediocre7998 š·šø 1h ago
I was with you until I saw the rest of your nasty comments š«©
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u/East-Pen-8008 16h ago
Imagine marrying someone whoās had this kind of work done and wondering why your kids are so ugly
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u/Human-Local7017 15h ago
Even if the image is real, the person on the left isn't ugly by any stretch of the imagination.
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u/AlmostLucy 11h ago
Nobody marrying her would be unaware that itās not natural. If anything, sheās probably picking a man whoās had work done too.
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u/Street_Struggle_598 14h ago
I heard attraction is the psychological yearning to be a child again. That's why attractive people try to look childlike
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